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Any thoughts on this... coming from NYT makes me less concerned however...
1 posted on 11/23/2017 2:49:06 PM PST by Heff
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“Michael S Schmidt” and “according to four people involved in the case”... aaaaaaaand stopped reading


108 posted on 11/23/2017 6:06:32 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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“A Split From Trump Indicates That Flynn Is Moving to Cooperate With Mueller”

no it doesn’t. all it indicates is that Flynn’s and Trump’s interests might be different.

and who cares if Flynn “cooperates” with Muller anyway? since trump hasn’t done anything illegal or unethical, there’s not a damn thing Flynn can do to hurt trump.


116 posted on 11/23/2017 6:31:21 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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The NYT that recently changed its motto to "Democracy dies in darkness?"

Do they really not know what the Founders said about democracy, or is it intentional propaganda to fool the stupid?.

No question it's the latter.

It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself.

There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.

It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy.

It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history.

-John Adams, rich white man.

144 posted on 11/23/2017 7:32:31 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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I think anyone willing to come up with some crap against Trump will be given immunity to any and all crimes past and present (even going back 40 years if need be).

I think Podesta group will be given immunity, the Clintons will be given immunity, everyone will be given immunity for ‘statements’ (which will be nothing of value) against the Trump team.

Mueller is not a prosecutor, he is there to hand out immunities and deals to the deep state.

In the end, Trump will be guilty of nothing, but at the same time, everyone in the deep state will be immune from any prosecution.


145 posted on 11/23/2017 7:34:06 PM PST by Bubba Gump Shrimp (A Liberal is someone who cannot accept that there is a Law of Unintended Consequences)
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Yes, I believe Trump initially was misguided in his views on Putin and Russia, but then was 'schooled' by people in-the-know who he selected to fill top administration positions.

Because both Flynn and Manafort absolutely did have some troubling close ties to KGB/FSB Putin.

In Dec, 2016, Michael Flynn sat two seats from Putin at his private table at a Russia Today gala to mark its 10th anniversary. Russia Today (RT) is a state-run propaganda “news” outlet. No wonder wise top officials in the Trump administration didn’t trust him, even before he reportedly gave assurances to the Russians that recent sanctions would be lifted by Trump. Something he failed to brief Pence on. The guy was an obvious Putin stooge. This is why our resident Putinistas are so upset about him leaving.
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"It was December 10 [2016], and Vladimir Putin was the guest of honor at RT’s 10th anniversary dinner, at Moscow’s Metropol Hotel in the shadow of the Kremlin. ...”

“Seated next to Simonyan at the dinner and just two seats away from Putin himself was perhaps the most intriguing example of how the Russians have gone about recruiting disaffected members of that establishment: a rugged-looking man in a tuxedo who less than 18 months earlier had been head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s powerful in-house equivalent of the CIA.

Michael Flynn, now a private citizen after a reportedly disgruntled retirement, was not there to gather intelligence. His attendance at the RT [Russia Today] gala, before which he also gave a talk on world affairs, appeared to inaugurate a relationship with the network—presumably a paid one, though neither Flynn nor RT answered queries on the subject.

Flynn now makes semi-regular appearances on RT as an analyst, in which he often argues that the U.S. and Russia should be working more closely together on issues like fighting ISIL and ending Syria’s civil war.

“Russia has its own national security strategy, and we have to respect that,” he said in one recent appearance. “And we have to try to figure out: How do we combine the United States’ national security strategy along with Russia’s national security strategy, despite all the challenges that we face?”...”

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-russia-today-rt-kremlin-media-vladimir-putin-213833
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Michael Flynn, was a "semi-regular" guest on the state-controlled Russian propaganda media outlet, Russia Today (RT).

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NSA Advisor Michael Flynn seated next to Russian President Vladimir Putin, and Jill Stein (for good measure) at the 10th Anniversary Gala for Russia Today [RT].

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Lot's more on RT (Russia Today) here:

Michael Flynn (lifelong Democrat/Obama appointee), "news" outlet Russia Today, and KGB Putin

2/14/2017, 1:32:43 PM · by ETL · 19 replies
various sources (links provided) | Feb 14, 2017

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3524810/posts

188 posted on 11/23/2017 9:31:37 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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NEW! Nov 23, 2017

New Manafort travel docs reveal closer ties to Russia: report

Fox News, Nov 23, 2017

Paul Manafort had taken 18 trips to Moscow and was in contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s allies for more than a decade before running President Trump’s 2016 election campaign, a new report said Thursday.

Manafort, who was indicted by a federal grand jury last month on 12 counts including conspiracy against the United States, had also taken at least 19 trips to Kiev to work with a pro-Kremlin political faction before joining Trump’s team, McClatchy reported.

The news outlet cited flight records they obtained from Ukrainian authorities as well as intelligence gathered from current and foreign government officials. The new evidence suggests Manafort’s ties to the Kremlin go much deeper than previously thought.

Even after the February 2014 fall of Ukraine’s pro-Moscow President Viktor Yanukovych, Manafort continued to go to Kiev another 19 times in fewer than two years while working for the smaller, pro-Russian Opposition Block party, McClatchy reported.

Some have suggested Manafort had been turned into an asset acting on Moscow’s behalf.

“You can make a case that all along he ...was either working principally for Moscow, or he was trying to play both sides against each other just to maximize his profits,” Daniel Fried, a former assistant secretary of state who communicated with Manafort during Yanukovych’s reign in President George W. Bush’s second term, told McClatchy.

“He’s at best got a conflict of interest and at worst is really doing Putin’s bidding,” Fried, now a fellow with the Atlantic Council, said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/23/new-manafort-travel-docs-reveal-closer-ties-to-russia-report.html

189 posted on 11/23/2017 9:32:00 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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I guess cooperating with the communists to overthrow the elected President of the United States sure beats going to prison for something YOU did.


191 posted on 11/23/2017 9:36:05 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (2017 - The year the liberals' "sexual revolution" strikes back!)
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I thought little Bobby Mueller was hired to investigate if PRESIDENT Trump “colluded” with the Russkis the way Clintoon colluded with Lynch on the Phoenix tarmac. Why the hell is he going after these people? That should be somebody else’s job.


199 posted on 11/23/2017 9:46:54 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (2017 - The year the liberals' "sexual revolution" strikes back!)
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Michael Flynn, besides his close ties to KGB Putin, was a life-long DEMOCRAT. That is extremely telling, given the far left shift of the party over the past few decades.


216 posted on 11/23/2017 10:13:34 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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Doesn’t sound good. Two things though:
1. Joint defense agreements have a conflict of interest between the parties they serve.
2. This may actually protect Trump in some degree in separating Trump’s lawyers from Flynn’s defense. This mayestablish them as separate, not responsible or knowing of the actions and claims of the other.

Still gut is it sounds bad, just pointing out some possible positive things on this.


221 posted on 11/23/2017 10:34:22 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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“Lawyers for Mr. Flynn and Mr. Trump declined to comment. The four people briefed on the matter spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly.”

Leaker in legal teams.


225 posted on 11/23/2017 11:12:17 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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I find the timing of this interesting. Actually I do not find it interesting, but rather predictable.

Every time the Uranium One scandal or the Fusion GPS matter heats up or starts to implicate the swamp,, abracadabra an anonymously sourced story on the Mueller investigation (coup d’etat, really) appears.

I don’t know whether they have “flipped” Flynn. But if they have, it’s a case of them coercing false testimony from him. Watch as the media and Dems go from condemning this guy to declaring him the hero of the century.


239 posted on 11/24/2017 2:22:58 AM PST by FlipWilson (The)
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Annnnnnd....

Another win for the deep state.


245 posted on 11/24/2017 4:51:38 AM PST by RepRivFarm ("During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell)
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Hey NY Times:


257 posted on 11/24/2017 7:20:06 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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In any matter involving a criminal matter, it comes down to whose interest are the attorneys actually representing.

If this is true, the government has pitched him a deal and suggested he find new counsel to represent him alone.


267 posted on 11/24/2017 7:53:04 AM PST by Mouton (The MSM is a clear and present danger to the republic.)
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As the story itself states:

“The notification alone does not prove that Mr. Flynn is cooperating with Mr. Mueller. Some lawyers withdraw from information-sharing arrangements as soon as they begin negotiating with prosecutors. And such negotiations sometimes fall apart.”

So, self-admittedly, what we have is another nothingburger from the Slimes. It sounds like Flynn is negotiating a plea deal, probably involving charges stemming from the Turkey business.

Months ago, the Trump people handed over all of the emails and other communications regarding the campaign, including those to and from Flynn, so there's nothing new here. Just another example of the Slimes hyperventilating over bupkis in order to titillate the hysterical cat-ladies that make up the greater portion of the Slimes readership.

276 posted on 11/24/2017 9:35:44 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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never was really keen on Flynn...seemed suspiciously fishy to me....but like most career upper military types....he wanted control and power. Please he was a democrat.....who should have never been brought into inner circle by Trump. Trump has made several bad hires Im afraid.


277 posted on 11/24/2017 9:51:02 AM PST by Dont tread and Live
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If Trump truly had balls, he would end this insanity, but he doesn’t and he won’t.


278 posted on 11/24/2017 12:57:50 PM PST by heights
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*I do not believe, AS HAS BEEN WIDELY REPORTED, Mueller is not going after the president.

*Our POTUS Trump IS Mueller’s TARGET!

AND, as a global socialist soldier, Mueller must stop Trump!

*I believe Mueller wants and needs the White House “IN THE DARK!”

The Democrats and RINO’s in Congress have already demonstrated they will IMPEACH Trump if given POLITICAL COVER of some kind, regardless if the charges are just made up!

*Forget Russia, it appears now, Mueller is going after anything and everything to do with his political enemy’s, specifically targeting or Constitutionally elected POTUS, and to by force, OVERTURN the will of the electorate across the United States. Mueller is not concerned with blow-back. He believes he will not be touched.

*RECALL*, this past week, Mueller decided to SUBPOENA AG Sessions, Rosenstein, and others within the JD and FBI. This has NEVER been done before, and by itself, demonstrates he knows CONGRESS will not stop him, AND therefore he is ABOVE and MORE POWERFULL than the Constitutionally designated THREE branches of our government!

Just as the Clintons used the FBI to gain the personnel files of all of congress with impunity, Mueller NOW BELIEVES the US Government must now bow its knee to his NEW FOUND SUPREMECY OVER THEM!

*Also recall*, before this UNPRECEDENTED demand from the AG, in a near identical UNPRECEDENTED DEMAND, Mueller subpoenaed the Executive Branch!

While Mueller has repeatedly violated clearly written applicable federal statutes regarding the deliberate release of information pertaining to his investigation, *I believe, it is ALSO LIKELY, Mueller is attempting to cut off ALL information flow to the White House.

There is a real possibility here, in an attempt to render the White House blind to who he is talking to, what he is coercing out of them, and his strategy, Mueller could have used pressure against team Flynn.

As the religiously militant anti-God/anti-conservative global socialists hate Trump, I believe MUELLER (a true criminal - who worked to *COVER UP high crimes against the United States, which were committed by GLOBALISTS Obama and the Clintons, while making them rich) ALSO HATES Trump!

The “DEEP STATE” is an accurate term describing the anti-American global socialists, AND MUELLER IS THEIR ONLY HOPE TO NEUTRALIZE AND STOP AMERICA AND TRUMP!

As the socialists of the past century, the global socialists today will kill any and all who try to stop them! They are the truest ENEMY of the United States and the liberty of its citizens, and the truest enemy of our US Constitution which guarantees inherent liberty.

As with McCain, Mueller has long proven he is a “deep state” criminal and SOLDIER of the global socialists.

Mueller does not just want the president thrown out, Mueller would put him in the ground if possible.


285 posted on 11/25/2017 12:37:51 AM PST by patriotfury (May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tent!)
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TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.... This is per Roger Stone.

Flynn is NOT SPLITTING from President Trump.

There are still simply too many leaks in the White House that are getting back to Robert Mueller.

Thus, General Flynn is simply communing to President Trump via another route.

General Flynn remains loyal to President Trump.

Remember Freepers NY Times = Fake News

1 Caviaught for you..... The House of Cards will be falling soon

Two Words... Uranium One


290 posted on 11/27/2017 7:13:23 PM PST by Enlightened1
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