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Democrat Doug Jones: Second Amendment Has ‘Limitations,’ Wants ‘Smart’ Gun Laws
Breitbart ^ | 20 Nov 2017 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 11/20/2017 7:45:10 AM PST by Cheerio

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To: MacNaughton

“And SCOTUS ruled exactly that, in US vs. Miller.
Then how do you reconcile the 1934 National Firearm Act with the SCOTUS Miller decision?”

The Court clearly moved away from Miller. You don’t have to reconcile it.

Besides, there is no conflict. Miller said a firearm must be particularly useful in a militia setting and decided a sawed off shotgun wasn’t ... so the rulings are the same.


61 posted on 11/20/2017 11:58:55 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: MacNaughton

By noting that the reason Miller lost was because the court didn’t think a sawed-off shotgun was useful for national defense.


62 posted on 11/20/2017 11:59:16 AM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: sourcery

A militia is wholly dependent on armed citizens, and thus cannot exist without armed citizens. Armed citizens, on the other hand, are not at all dependent on a militia, and can exist without a militia.


63 posted on 11/20/2017 12:42:36 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Woodrow Wilson hated the Constitution, especially the Bill of Rights. And he didn’t try to hide that hatred.


64 posted on 11/20/2017 12:44:53 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Cheerio

Thought he meant smart guns like self driving smart cars.


65 posted on 11/20/2017 12:46:40 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: ought-six

Unless you define “militia” as the set of all citizens who are armed. Which is the way it’s defined even now in Federal law, and as it was commonly defined when the Constitution was written.


66 posted on 11/20/2017 1:25:33 PM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: sourcery

Which just makes my point: Militia is wholly dependent on an armed citizenry, and cannot exist without an armed citizenry.

A book library is wholly dependent on books, and cannot exist without books. But books can exist — and people can read them — without a library.


67 posted on 11/20/2017 1:33:50 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Cheerio

Doug, the 2A is about citizens arming against a government that is for the elite. Do you ever read the Constitution or do you think it is outdated like all you Marxists think?


68 posted on 11/20/2017 1:54:08 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Cheerio

This guy can go F himself.

I can’t even carry a knife here in crazy NYC. I would LOVE to be able to own and carry a firearm.


69 posted on 11/20/2017 2:12:00 PM PST by wastedyears (US out of the UN, UN out of the US.)
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To: Rurudyne

The second amendment doesn’t have limitations. I would however draw the line at nukes.


70 posted on 11/20/2017 2:15:21 PM PST by wastedyears (US out of the UN, UN out of the US.)
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To: ought-six

Yes, to have a militia, one must have an armed citizenry. By definition of ‘militia.’


71 posted on 11/20/2017 2:25:00 PM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: Cheerio

Smart guns means the government can turn them off....whenever they want.


72 posted on 11/20/2017 6:28:31 PM PST by stockpirate (The GOPe and socialist friends do not fear Americans)
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To: BenLurkin
"Next up: “Smart” speech laws."

A couple of smart congress critters wouldn't hurt any.

73 posted on 11/20/2017 8:34:57 PM PST by HangThemHigh (Entropy is not what it used to be.)
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To: DesertRhino; sourcery
61 The Court clearly moved away from Miller. You don’t have to reconcile it. Besides, there is no conflict. Miller said a firearm must be particularly useful in a militia setting and decided a sawed off shotgun wasn’t ... so the rulings are the same.

62 By noting that the reason Miller lost was because the court didn’t think a sawed-off shotgun was useful for national defense.

... then what about the M1918 and M1928A1 ...


74 posted on 11/20/2017 8:58:56 PM PST by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: MacNaughton

Those aren’t SCOTUS rulings.


75 posted on 11/21/2017 4:40:51 AM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: Cheerio

Doug Jones most likely threw away his chance to win with that statement.

Can you say Senator-Elect Roy Moore?


76 posted on 11/21/2017 5:45:49 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Rurudyne; Squantos; Travis McGee; Lurker
Even if the 2nd has limits the 10th does NOT.

No delegated power mean no power.

If the Second has limits, so too do ALL the others. But we'll begin with the First: Those who say anything we don't like that *offends us* may be shot at will. Traitors may be hanged without benefit of trial, if they confess after waterboarding.

Well, technically, when I do it, it's Diesel fuel-boarding....

77 posted on 11/25/2017 10:24:40 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: archy

“Well, technically, when I do it, it’s Diesel fuel-boarding....”

You have an evil streak.

I approve.

L


78 posted on 11/25/2017 12:34:59 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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