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To: I want the USA back

WHERE WERE THE TEXAS CARRIERS ? ? ?


6 posted on 11/05/2017 11:18:19 AM PST by knarf
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Some people believe it is sinful to bbring a weapon into a house God.

The early colonists knew better.


15 posted on 11/05/2017 11:24:05 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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no guns in a House of God, remember?

I assume that is what you went by your comment.


34 posted on 11/05/2017 11:33:15 AM PST by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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He’s dead Jim. So someone shot him which is why I carry to church.


49 posted on 11/05/2017 11:41:38 AM PST by Mercat (I know my redeemer lives.)
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“WHERE WERE THE TEXAS CARRIERS ? ? ?”

Shooting 16 people in a crowded area cannot be that hard even if every single person is carrying. If you can shoot a couple of shots per second with some accuracy, it only takes less than 10 seconds before you can shoot a dozen or so people multiple times.

Unless those carrying are alert and looking out for other gunmen (if everybody is carrying, everybody is a gunman), chances of a carrying bystander PREVENTING is just absurd. What a carrying bystander can do is limit the damage... if nobody is carrying, likely that hundreds would be dead before the cops come in. If people are carrying people, the shooter can still kill a dozen or so before being neutralized.


72 posted on 11/05/2017 11:54:55 AM PST by sagar
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WHERE WERE THE TEXAS CARRIERS ? ? ?

Sometimes that would save the day, other times not. Depends on who sees who first and what he was armed with. Don’t know what weapon he had, but if he had an AK or AR with a drum, that would be hard to stop.
Imagine you are halfway through the service and suddenly from behind a storm of aimed rifle fire goes straight into the crowd as fast as someone can pull the trigger. There is an absolute crush of people falling, screaming and trying to flee. The bad guy had tactical gear, possibly a plate carrier. All of that and you are taken totally from ambush... you would have a hard time regaining the initiative.

There are things that would help, like an usher at the door. Armed if possible, but even if not, him being shot first might give you that precious 3 seconds of warning. Lots of churches designate ccw’s as security and they position themselves accordingly.
But just random people in the pews caught off guard, would have a very hard time getting into action fast enough to deal with that.
That’s not in _any way_a knock on ccw at church - none whatsoever-. You can and should carry and it helps a LOT in some scenarios.

But though we all think it cant be true. But you could have had 50 navy seals packed in a classroom, on a navy base with glocks... and it wouldn’t have unfolded THAT much differently if someone steps in the backdoor and surprises them with a blast into the crowd with enough well-aimed firepower.

I like ccw, and i love our ARs and Aks. But sometimes, its just not your day. I wouldn’t be too hard on those people about not winning that ambush.


178 posted on 11/05/2017 1:05:14 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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