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Update: 'At least 27 people killed' at a Texas church and multiple people injured ...
The Daily Mail ^ | 11/05/2017 | Valerie Edwards

Posted on 11/05/2017 11:11:39 AM PST by Enlightened1

At least 16 people have been shot inside a Texas church after a gunman opened fire during the Sunday morning service.  

The shooting happened at the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs, where around 50 people usually attend service, according to local reports.  

Witnesses said a man 'in full gear' walked inside the church and opened fire just before 10.30am. 

At least 16 people have been shot inside a Texas church after a gunman opened fire during the Sunday morning service at the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs (pictured)

Neighbors in the area said they may have heard the shooter reload multiple times. 

Another witness at the scene said a two-year-old was also shot in the attack.

According to KSAT, there were at least six helicopters called in to transport victims to the hospital. 

It's unclear if anyone was fatally wounded in the attack.

 

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; church; churchshooting; devinpatrickkelley; fire; firstbaptist; gunman; opens; rural; sanantonio; shooting; sutherlandsprings; texas
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To: Chgogal
His converted name is Samir Al-Hajeed.

That's the same name as the Vegas hoax. Best explanation is that it is a reused hoax.

381 posted on 11/05/2017 3:31:41 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Chgogal

I wish everyone posting this stuff would take a little bit of time to actually READ the thread before posting. They may realize this was discredited a LONG TIME AGO. This is a HOAX.


382 posted on 11/05/2017 3:31:47 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: corlorde
The facial features are very similar. The eyes are a different color. But the noses are the same. The same hairline. Very interesting.
383 posted on 11/05/2017 3:32:16 PM PST by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: Uncle Lonny
Agreed, but....
384 posted on 11/05/2017 3:33:26 PM PST by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: hoosierham
"Some people believe it is sinful to bbring a weapon into a house God."

I have relatives who firmly believe that. It's a ridiculously illogical position. The conversation invariably goes, "It just seems sinful to bring a weapon into the sanctuary..."

"Why, are inanimate guns somehow sinful objects?"

"Well no..."

"It is sinful to defend your own life?"

"Well, no...But..."

"So how can it be wrong to be prepared to defend your life?"

"It just seems so wrong to have a gun in church..."

There's no convincing some people. As you said, the early colonists knew better. In my town is a church build over 300 years ago. The colonists who worshiped there were besieged by Indians -- the town was burned 3 times, and on multiple occasions the colonists survived only because they were armed and prepared at church. They even had a battle with a group of Christian Indians who had theological differences with the congregation, who claimed they weren't trying to hurt anyone, only to use the sound of gunfire to drown out the error of the sermons!

385 posted on 11/05/2017 3:33:41 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: Chgogal; All

Live press conf min. away.

https://www.ksat.com/news/live-press-conference-on-sutherland-springs-church-shooting


386 posted on 11/05/2017 3:34:16 PM PST by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: NELSON111

Link me to the post. THAT would be helpful instead of just bitching. If you are too lazy to do that, too bad then.


387 posted on 11/05/2017 3:35:15 PM PST by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!)
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To: Chgogal

Dude.... that has been debunked as fake news some time ago.


388 posted on 11/05/2017 3:36:26 PM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: ForYourChildren
Thanks!

[link to www.guntrustlawyer.com (secure)]

The dishonorable discharge is based on a general court-martial conviction. This means the conviction is a felony, regardless of what the underlying offense may have been. The convicted felon is banned from possessing a firearm including Title II Firearms (a Silencer, SBR, SBS, AOW, or Machine Gun).

[link to heavy.com (secure)]

The LinkedIn page says, under the entry for U.S. Air Force, “Cargo, demand and supply , distribution.” He added, “Basic learning on my contracted job.” The page says he attended New Braunfels High School from 2003 to 2009, receiving his diploma. His LinkedIn page also says, “I am a hard working dedicated person. I live by he core values on which the Air Force go by.”

However, CBS News reported that the suspect is former “US Air Force E1 (2010-2014) He received a dishonorable discharge He was court martialed in May 2014.”

 

He has pics of Las Vegas Mandalay Bay pyramid on one of his his facebook pages, plus a backdrop picture of the PUBLIC MARKET sign in Seattle... hmmm...
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

Its seems as though he has two facebook pages--- one showing his photo as Kermit the Frog, and another showing his actual face.
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

They both link to US Tank Alliance, whatever that is-- it seems to be a septic tank company-- if this is the guy?
 

 

389 posted on 11/05/2017 3:37:51 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: kabar
Mustachio Tweeted: #texaschurchshooting shooter is 29 year old US marine turned muslim convert, Samir Al-Hajeed. His manifesto is making its rounds on the web

Google Samir Al-Hajeed and see what comes up. Seems brother Samir has been recycled from Las Vegas.

390 posted on 11/05/2017 3:38:35 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Enlightened1

Those on the right are the hoax pics.


391 posted on 11/05/2017 3:40:35 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Enlightened1

from the link:

Here are some of the hoaxes circulating on social media:

Several Twitter users falsely identified a man named Samir Al-Hajeed as the gunman wanted in connection with the mass shooting. However, it appears that the man holding the gun in the photo is actually comedian Sam Hyde, who has been falsely accused in the aftermath of other attacks, including the UCLA and San Bernardino shootings. It remains unclear why social media users repeatedly circulate Hyde’s photo after mass shootings.


392 posted on 11/05/2017 3:42:17 PM PST by rodguy911 (Home of the free because of the brave!MAGA!)
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To: Enlightened1

“Word is that he converted to Islam and grew a beard. See post #367.”

Do you have a link or evidence to support that?

In the meantime, IMO, there is or certainly should be a presumption that this kind of senseless, unprovoked attack and mass killing are done by a Islamic jihadist.

The link below is a list of 93 deadly Islamic terror attacks made on American soil since 1972 that supports such a presumption.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/american-attacks.aspx


393 posted on 11/05/2017 3:42:48 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Qiviut

The made-for-TV movie of this was just heart breaking.


394 posted on 11/05/2017 3:44:27 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (A person's greatest strength is his greatest weakness.)
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To: kabar

Please don’t spread the “Marine” label because I saw one report that says he was in the Air Force. He does not have the “look” of a Marine.


395 posted on 11/05/2017 3:44:35 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Kudsman

“Where’s the Uranium?”

It’s pointed at us atop an ICBM.


396 posted on 11/05/2017 3:44:53 PM PST by Crucial
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To: corlorde

Time for DNA wherever possible.


397 posted on 11/05/2017 3:48:06 PM PST by rodguy911 (Home of the free because of the brave!MAGA!)
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To: Enlightened1

TO RESPOND TO YOUR FAVORITE LIBERAL GUN GRABBER:

Dishonorable discharge = not allowed to ever own a firearm. The law didn’t stop him.


398 posted on 11/05/2017 3:49:49 PM PST by DadOfFive (MAGA)
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To: DadOfFive

And it was a citizen with a firearm who made the perp drop his weapon.


399 posted on 11/05/2017 3:51:01 PM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Enlightened1
It appears that until recently, Devin Kelley did have a beard. Read the FB comments beside his picture:
Brandon S. Beaty - “Dont you have a beard?”
Devin Kelley - “Not anymore. Long story”

The clean-shaven appearance in his last pictures was apparently not how he usually looked. Might mean something, might not.

400 posted on 11/05/2017 3:51:31 PM PST by JGT
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