[JoSixChip]

There will be no middle class tax cut under this plan,

Translation: mariner lives in california under high local and state taxes due to the overall stupidity of california. So obviously the rest of us in more reasonable states should subsidize californians stupidity. Other wise it is not a real middle class tax cut. If you look at everything in givesmethat terms, you just might be a liberal.

[brianr10]

I live in NYS. Combined my wife and I make 120-130 K per year before taxes deprnding on how much my wife substitue teaches. My house cost 88 K in 2001. Mortgage has beeen paid off for several years. I was never able to beat the standard deduction with itemization, even in NY. Now they are talking about doubling it, which would net me 6K per year, but I doubt it would happen.

[Mariner]

Here we go again.

California subsidizes your state and your retirement payments.

That would be the California Taxpayers.

Dimwit.