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To: the OlLine Rebel

American dirt. You don’t advance by retreating!

Major US military ports, training facilities, national labs other federal (”paid-for-by-all-of-us”!) assets cut off or lost. Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, etc cut off then lost.
Relations with Japan, Philippines, South Korea, India & all Southeast Asian powers will be compromised, then eroded then gone. The US will no longer be a Pacific/Asian power.

Most practical and obvious reason, if California secedes China will immediately move in to protect them. (You think the “California Army\Navy\Air Force -former CA NG!” can stop them? You think they will even be ordered to?) China will be asked to come in to protect California from the USA ! There are plenty of leftists there who will have no problem with that. And its logical for them to do it!

You want to share a border with a hostile nuclear armed world power? You think you have a border problem now? Wait until all the illegals, “coyotes”, druggies, etc. have the backing of a world power - China. A power who understands and is adept at “subversion”. Don’t interpret what I am saying as an inordinate fear of China. It’s just the logical next step for California as a separate nation. China is a rising power, it remains to be seen if we are a falling power. If we shed California due to some misplaced nostalgia for what might have been for the South, we will definitely be a falling power.

China is already training for an opportunity like this. They are becoming heavily involved in Africa. They’ll now have troops and a naval base in Africa. So moving troops half way around the world to fill a power vacuum they can sort of do now, in a few years they will be very good at it.

I prefer to deal with China where China is - in China, not at the Rockies!


30 posted on 10/21/2017 8:44:29 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Bottom line, it is their right, if they choose as a body.

It was considered a natural right (check out various secession movements) until Lincoln worried about all those possibilities like you do. Losing this, losing that, etc.

So did Britain worry, and they lost. They survived.

Let them go. I could come up with just as many what-if scenarios as you. You seem a bit paranoid that losing CA will completely change our balance in the world. Absurd.


32 posted on 10/21/2017 8:53:39 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Reily
I prefer to deal with China where China is - in China, not at the Rockies!

Spot on. But I wouldn't mind seeing Kali "Reconstructed".

74 posted on 10/21/2017 10:27:32 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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