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| October 3, 2017
| Cathy Young
Posted on 10/16/2017 4:10:10 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: a fool in paradise
I don’t know. What we see today, though, is Nazi symbols in the hands of the far right. It’s unfortunate. They often have the confederate battle flag, too. What does that mean?
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:13:48 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
To: SJackson
Competing brands of the same product.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:14:00 PM PDT
by
henkster
(The View: A psychiatric group therapy session where the shrink has stepped out of the room.)
To: iontheball
That's a present day American point of view. Things looked different in Europe 80 years ago.
The old European right wasn't in love with freedom and individualism, any more than the old European left was pacifist and omni-tolerant of all manner of ethnicities and lifestyles.
Communists and Nazis/Fascists were fighting in the streets. Millions joined one side or the other, and that's what defined right and left for that generation.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:14:54 PM PDT
by
x
To: sparklite2
Define the principles of “far right”.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:15:28 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
To: JimSEA
That’s interesting. I’ll be thinking about it for a while.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:16:30 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
To: SJackson
Potato, potahto. “National Socialist Worker’s Party” sounds indistinguishable from communism to me.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:16:42 PM PDT
by
Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
To: dfwgator
“I think Jews would disagree.”
Jews aren’t the final arbiter about whether communists or Nazis were more evil. Communists and Nazis were the ultimate Marxist competitors.
Read about the Stalinist Holodomor in the Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
To: henkster
Many of the SA were former Communist street brawlers who were recruited by the Nazis. They offered better beer.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:17:54 PM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: a fool in paradise
Wilson certainly was. He and Mussolini were a mutual admiration society.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:18:45 PM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Islam delenda est)
To: SJackson
Communism is viewed as an expression of humanitys historic striving for social justice and comradeship, a noble dream turned to horrific nightmare. Nazism, on the other hand, stood for racial supremacy and brutal oppression of lower races. I don't see Communism as striving for Social Justice. It subjects the populace with the promise of a utopia that never comes. But the animals at the top of Animal Farm sure live well.
What of Mao's cultural revolution was a "noble dream"? Destroying the artifacts of ancient Chinese nobility? Students killing and eating their teachers???
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:19:15 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
To: SJackson
Communism is viewed as an expression of humanitys historic striving for social justice and comradeship, a noble dream turned to horrific nightmare. Nazism, on the other hand, stood for racial supremacy and brutal oppression of lower races. And Japanese Imperial Shintoism also pushed racial supremacy and brutal oppression of "lower" races. Medical experiments on prisoners, rape farms. But they weren't white so it gets a pass and is forgotten.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:20:41 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
To: FreedomPoster
And to be clear, a liberal of the old type, those who really believe in individual freedom is clearly a modern conservative. Our current Left, who fancy themselves Liberals are anything but,Exactly, these arguments about Communism/Fascism/left/right really shouldn't exist in a European context relative to America. Left and right, when defined within a system based on individual freedom and individual rights take on a very different meaning than in the European context of governmental supremacy. We're arguing apples and oranges, though I acknowledge the European leftist vision has taken hold on the American left.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:21:03 PM PDT
by
SJackson
(The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
To: FreedomPoster
Further, I would argue that anyone marching under the swastika today is anything but right wing’
Using the metrics of race and anti-Semitism, I see it otherwise.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:21:47 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
To: sparklite2
Do you see an oppressive or racist or suprmacist message in this image of Johnny Cash with Muppets?
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:22:28 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
To: sparklite2
Are there anti-Semites among the so-called “anti-fascist” protesters?
Ever ask them about “God”?
Ever ask them about Israel?
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:23:27 PM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
To: ClearCase_guy
Actually I see it in reverse. Communism didn't appeal to Germans at that time because communism states that the revolution would take place in an already industrialized society. At the time of the revolution in Russia I think only about 3% of Russia was industrialized. That's why Stalin had to start the forced collectivization and the massive industrialization drives. Germany on the other hand had a system of industry and private ownership for at least a thousand years. Nazism, which was really fascism gives the pretense of private ownership in that yes , you can own your own factory but we , the state control the production process. Yes, you can own your own home but we, the state, are going to tell you how you're going to live in it. Both systems however do not allow for the private ownership of one’s thoughts or speech or writings.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:23:42 PM PDT
by
jmacusa
("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
To: a fool in paradise
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.
Until there is a definition of what constitutes
‘right-wing,’ discussion will be splintered.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:23:55 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
To: angry elephant
Nazism advocates national socialism, whereas communism advocates international socialism. They are both totalitarian abominations.
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:25:30 PM PDT
by
ought-six
(Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
To: a fool in paradise
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:26:10 PM PDT
by
sparklite2
(I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
To: cpdiii
Actually, the correct wording should be “had have won.”
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posted on
10/16/2017 5:31:03 PM PDT
by
ought-six
(Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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