Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

UK Government To Ban Sale of Petrol Cars By 2040
Daves Computer Tips ^ | 10/10/17 | Marc Thomas

Posted on 10/14/2017 9:50:40 PM PDT by Boomer

Bad news for petrol-heads then and good news for the environment… or is it? I must admit that I had to read the headline twice, just to make sure it wasn’t an early April fool. Then I read that similar proposals have been put forward by France, Holland and India, to name just three other countries. In fact India, which has some of the worst vehicular pollution in the world, has gone one step further by promising a ban on the sale of petrol and diesel cars one decade earlier, in 2030.

(Excerpt) Read more at davescomputertips.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-59 last
To: roadcat

there is currently enough excess generating capacity in the US to recharge 40 million EVs every night

and that excess capacity is growing by 1% per year.


41 posted on 10/15/2017 7:00:41 AM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: vooch

Source(s)?


42 posted on 10/15/2017 7:16:22 AM PDT by citizen (The aging US Senate: 5 in 80s, 18 in 70s, 32 in 60s, 30 in 50s, 14 in 40s, and 1 in 30s.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: citizen

absolutely - it’s all about the daily demand curve.


43 posted on 10/15/2017 7:39:45 AM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: citizen

We have 1,000 GW installed generating capacity. From 7pm to 7am less than 10% is used. We only demand peak capacity between 11 am to 5pm


44 posted on 10/15/2017 8:39:21 AM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: rightwingcrazy

It will be Unicorn-power rather than horsepower.


45 posted on 10/15/2017 9:18:41 AM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (A Texas Deplorable.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: hoosierham; I want the USA back; central_va; JudgemAll; PIF
Folks; I'm just the messenger. Yes, I am interested in how this unfolds, but I'm just an old motorhead who doesn't want to switch over to electric during my lifetime even though I like some aspects of the lower (far lower) maintenance E-Vehicles need vs the thousands more moving parts of the internal combustion engine (ICE). I don't "worship" technology but I don't shrink from it either. I use it. My smart phone is used for two things; making/receiving calls and showing people pictures I have stored on it. On rare occasions I will use the wifi part of it to read Free Republic when I'm out of town for a short time.

I would rather see these changes coming so I can adapt if necessary than get hit broadside. Of course I probably won't have much control over how it affects me either way and because I live in a fairly rural area; I don't expect it to affect those who live here for 30-50 years. Those in the cities though can expect it much much sooner. Especially places like L.A. where the smog is so thick it's like smoking a pack of cigs daily just living there. L.A. is a bowl so the smog just lays there until a strong enough wind blows it up and over the mountains into AZ or out to sea depending on onshore or offshore wind patterns.

When it happens; the transition from fossil fuels to electric won't be life changing. It will simply be different; an adaptation. Kind of like going from beepers to smart phones. In a way, for the sake of our FRiends in the L.A. basin, I do hope it happens sooner there than elsewhere in the USA. It would be the perfect petri dish to find out how it would work elsewhere. In a small way; CA could be a leader again in this experiment if it worked out and they could all breathe clean air again. It would still take a minimum of 10 years to transition; probably 15 and low income people would need to be subsidized.

46 posted on 10/15/2017 9:48:41 AM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Boomer

sooner we get rid of Saudi oil the better.


47 posted on 10/15/2017 9:57:07 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Boomer

Again where is all that power generation coming from? Do you see large scale building of nuclear power, massive coal or gas fired power stations? No.

So even 20 years down the road there still will not be enough power on the grid to power all electrical vehicles. And where does all the rare materials come from to build the batteries? Child slavery in Africa - who supports that?

Pipe dream of enviro-wackos, is all, being foisted on the rest of us.


48 posted on 10/15/2017 10:37:56 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: hoosierham; I want the USA back; central_va; JudgemAll; PIF; Steve Van Doorn; Jim Noble; Bob434; ...
Here is a good article NOT in favor of rushing into e-vehicles. Worth the read as well.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/10/jerry-reynolds/stop-the-electric-car-insanity-2/

49 posted on 10/15/2017 11:28:39 AM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Vince Ferrer
The more the left describes its utopia, the more it looks like the setting for Logan's Run.

Perfect analogy. "Logan's Run" where an overbearing government dictates your lifestyle and limits your movements. They want us to not drive at all. Only "special" government figures will be allowed to drive.

50 posted on 10/15/2017 11:46:29 AM PDT by roadcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: PIF

Other than to say we can definitely build more nuclear power plants if the will is there both politically and publicly; I agree with you. I’m in no hurry to transition over to e-vehicles. I like my ICE bikes, cars, and trucks.

The article I just posted earlier says it right. Let’s not rush into this transition; let’s let it happen naturally at its own pace. In doing so future technology will likely make it far more palatable for many of us. For instance; someplace hot or cold is going to need to use a lot of the battery power just to stay warm enough or cool enough to get where we are going in that little box. That power has to come from somewhere. Wireless charging lines in the roads? I dunno. It’ll probably be something no one has thought of yet.


51 posted on 10/15/2017 11:48:41 AM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Boomer

Wireless charging lines in roads likely to = lots of dead critters. Broadcast power a la Nikola Tesla likely to equal dead birds, insects like bees. One bad idea followed by another.

There is no will to build more power plants of any sort, rather the opposite - close the coal-fired plants down while building more solar incinerators and bio-fuel farms - and you thought ethanol was a bad idea for the food supply - just wait ...

GM will end making gasoline powered cars in 2023 and go all electric. Can’t wait for the 2023 Corvette ...


52 posted on 10/15/2017 12:32:00 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: PIF

I guess you missed the part where I said it being something no one has though of yet.

Are you always such a negative nellie?


53 posted on 10/15/2017 12:44:35 PM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: Boomer

i believe lee is blocked here


54 posted on 10/15/2017 2:45:43 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: vooch

Wow! You’re right! Must be some bad history there. Maybe they bitched about quoting them or something.


55 posted on 10/15/2017 5:27:53 PM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: Boomer

I think lew rockwell is banned because they they are too conservative for most people here. We should realize many people here are big gov‘t types and worship leviathan. They are lots of gov‘t employees here. When you get a paycheck from the gov’t, lewrockwell is not going to be your buddy

LOL


56 posted on 10/15/2017 6:43:05 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: vooch

What category is the plant? It’s not base load nuclear, so there are three other choices. Coal fired won’t turn down to 10%. It’s not a gas fired peaker plant—costs too much turned-down. Gas-fired combined-cycle best fits the described profile.

A grid does not have a 90% swing in total output at any time. The components switched into service to supplement for daily swings, and especially peaking, charge as much as three times more per unit of electrical output.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=1710


57 posted on 10/17/2017 4:39:58 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Ozark Tom

good points - certain peaked plants ARE very expensive to operate. But many are not. The newer NG fired peaker plants could easily run 4,000 hours/year instead of 1,500. Prices might even drop because of better fixed cost utilization.


58 posted on 10/21/2017 12:55:53 AM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: Ozark Tom

good points - certain peaked plants ARE very expensive to operate. But many are not. The newer NG fired peaker plants could easily run 4,000 hours/year instead of 1,500. Prices might even drop because of better fixed cost utilization.


59 posted on 10/21/2017 12:57:58 AM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-59 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson