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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: Kaslin; All
"11. What gun laws could have prevented this?

A: None. He had no criminal background."

There is a question if the Mandalay Bay Hotel is in a gun free zone. Noting that I don’t know the extent or authority of the gun free zone if there is one, please consider he following.

To the best of my knowledge after Googling, the Route 91 Harvest "What is not allowed in the festival?” list included weapons. Although the original Route 1 Harvest web site no longer seems to be available, Mr. Paul Klerk claims to have a copy of the list a short way down the following page.

Was the Las Vegas shooting in a gun free zone?

Corrections, insights welcome.

101 posted on 10/05/2017 4:23:52 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Kaslin

My Father was a NYPD Lieutenant Detective in the 50s, they had a saying, ‘The FBI couldn’t find a Jew in the Bronx’.


102 posted on 10/05/2017 4:24:19 PM PDT by heights
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To: StolarStorm

Yes. Something stinks. There is more to this as the Vegas Sheriff stated. Ongoing investigation. But so far the Vegas PD has done a remarkable job separating fact from fiction.


103 posted on 10/05/2017 4:25:57 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Kaslin
However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

It would be pure speculation to make that assumption unless you did some calculation, and knew what the crowd density was when people were hit. There are videos which show people being shot when they are running across mostly empty space trying to get to cover. In that situation it is at least a bit unreasonable to suggest that crowd density ensures a hit, when there is no crowd at the point where the running victim is hit.

I find it ironic when people who want to impose their view of what happened, and shut of any inquiry into what happened present the same kind of speculation they are criticizing.

104 posted on 10/05/2017 4:26:19 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: CaptainCarrollton

Saw a report today that the murder’s brother had previously threatened to kill some guy and had a restraining order against him.


105 posted on 10/05/2017 4:26:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: CaptainCarrollton
When he put up a large privacy fence around one of his homes, a neighbor asked him why he had done so, and he replied: “I don’t like looking at other people, and I don’t like other people looking at me.” Neighbors recalled him being extremely unfriendly and

Main reason why I never bought that he was the guy in Reno wearing a pussy hat. Guys who want to keep to themselves don't march in protests wearing pink pussies on their heads.

106 posted on 10/05/2017 4:26:21 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: heights

Who knows, maybe they didn’t have none?


107 posted on 10/05/2017 4:26:45 PM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: Meet the New Boss

Why was the ajar door “blown” by swat?

It’s called hoopla.

Lets sell some paper Jimmy! How many units did we move today?


108 posted on 10/05/2017 4:26:47 PM PDT by mylife
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To: TigerClaws

The Tannerite is a puzzle. May of been some part of the escape plan. Me I would of blown it about 7-8 minutes in. That would of delayed the police response.

As far as the tanks go I think it was just coincidence. There was a crowd piled up against the fence so big they breached it. Then they broke the door on a small building near the tanks and took cover.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0929031,-115.1703881,1111m/data=!3m1!1e3

As you can see in this image the tanks are North of the Janet terminal.


109 posted on 10/05/2017 4:27:37 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
FR made it’s bones on Clinton-era conspiracy theories, which turned out to be correct.

Let me guess, you're Michael Rivero's brother.....LOL!

110 posted on 10/05/2017 4:27:49 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Steven Tyler
I guess the medical examiner has no objections to releasing his autopsy report

That's weeks away and you can be assured it will be released. Of particular interest will be the toxicology report.

111 posted on 10/05/2017 4:28:02 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: johniegrad
The author claims full understanding of all possibilities at this time. Anyone who CLAIMS full understanding of all possibilities at this tie is deluded.

His argument is "Let the investigators get on with their jobs."

If they find something he doesn't know about he'd probably change his opinion.

112 posted on 10/05/2017 4:28:05 PM PDT by x
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To: Steven Tyler

What kind of drugs was he taking?


113 posted on 10/05/2017 4:28:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Steven Tyler
Yuppers, and a retiree who lifts a shot glass to his lips for exercise can absorb 800 rounds of rifle recoil

He was 6'4" and an AR-15 isn't physically taxing in the least.

Plus, he undoubtedly had an adrenaline rush giving him stamina.

114 posted on 10/05/2017 4:30:51 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: TigerClaws
Radar reporting the airplane fuel tank was for a CIA air base.

WTF?? The fuel tanks were at McCarren international airport...

Janet airplanes are parked openly on the apron.

What's the "CIA air base"??.

115 posted on 10/05/2017 4:31:33 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: heights
Why would it hurt the investigation to show the video of Paddock entering and exiting the Hotel?

There's already too much BS flying around, creating conspiracy theories left and right. Why do you want more?

116 posted on 10/05/2017 4:32:11 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Kaslin

The FBI surrendered the San Bernadino Terrorist apartment after only two days for the Press to rampage. IDs were left behind, files were not searched, draws weren’t gone though. If you get a chance, look for the photos, the refrigerator was left untouched. Bomb making material is often kept cool, yet everything in the refrigerator was pristine. If you believe anything these clown say, you’re a fool.


117 posted on 10/05/2017 4:32:43 PM PDT by heights
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To: x
His argument is "Let the investigators get on with their jobs."

Yes, of course because direct harm will come from people considering options in a situation where no one has answers. There is no possibility that anyone fro outside the interior intelligence community could ever have anything useful to consider. Everyone else is too stupid.

118 posted on 10/05/2017 4:34:46 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: pfflier

Does Vegas have any grassy knolls nearby.


119 posted on 10/05/2017 4:34:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“There’s already too much BS flying around, creating conspiracy theories left and right. Why do you want more?”

What, its Too difficult to show the public it was really Paddock at the apartment.?


120 posted on 10/05/2017 4:35:24 PM PDT by heights
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