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Survey: Majority of U.S. Physicians Now Support Single-Payer
American Thinker ^ | 10/02/2017 | Peter Barry Chowka

Posted on 10/02/2017 9:28:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Docs have been threatened with massive Medicare audits?


21 posted on 10/02/2017 9:49:18 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: SeekAndFind

I recall finding on Google News Archive an article in the Ottawa Citizen from about 1982 and it was an interview with a doctor who for many years worked at one of our major hospitals until about two or three years earlier. He got fed up with how the government controlled everything from his billing, how much hospitals spent on food, when certain procedures and surgeries were to be done and at what cost, etc. He moved to Arkansas and immediately found far more freedom in terms of how many more patients he could serve and how more fully he could serve them and do all sorts of other things in terms of delivery of his services that were greatly restricted back up here.


22 posted on 10/02/2017 9:50:40 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: SeekAndFind

“How can “ Medicare” cover every citizen when we had to pay deductions for many years and wait until age 65 to use it?”

But didn’t San Fran Nan tell us that Obamacare would reduce the deficit?


23 posted on 10/02/2017 9:51:55 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: arkfreepdom
I’m a physician. I know no doc who wants single payer.
My son's brother-in-law is an orthopedic surgeon who did a 1 year fellowship in Vancouver, BC a few years ago.
He was appalled at how truly bad their health care system was.
24 posted on 10/02/2017 9:53:03 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Tazzo

It won’t be Medicare for all my “ right of what is commonly presented on this forum” friend. There isn’t enough money for that.

Perhaps some degraded form of Medicaid for all. Read Solzhenitsyn’s Cancer Ward (if you haven’t already) and you can get a pretty good idea of how single payer will play out in a bankrupt country. Just make sure you’ve got a stock of vodka for your doctor visits.


25 posted on 10/02/2017 9:53:38 AM PDT by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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To: Tazzo
are you private practice?
26 posted on 10/02/2017 9:53:57 AM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Tazzo

RE: Medicare for all will provide the best alternative to what we have now. I see no alternative.

There’s only one thing that you will have to consider — Medicare for seniors has been PAID FOR by these same folks via payroll tax deductions during their lifetime of work.

If we have Medicare-for-all, I assume that Medicaid will be done away with.

Does this mean that even if you did not pay into the Medicare system, you qualify for it?

How’s that going to affect the country’s finances?


27 posted on 10/02/2017 9:56:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: arkfreepdom

RE: I’m a physician. I know no doc who wants single payer.

Well, it looks like you do now... see Post #18 in this thread.


28 posted on 10/02/2017 9:57:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Perfectl Played by the globalist establishment...how quickly we are turning into a third world nation!! I hate the freakin liberals they are a cancer in society!! Everything they touch become fecal matter!! EVERYTHING!!


29 posted on 10/02/2017 10:02:56 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: griswold3

“Single-Payer means Physicians are government employees”

I’m a physician. The Rubicon was crossed 8 years ago. We already are government employees, de facto, one way or another. All that is left is a formalization. The door was left open by the GOP Senate.


30 posted on 10/02/2017 10:02:56 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Not only are more of them younger and female, they’re also increasingly foreign.


31 posted on 10/02/2017 10:04:11 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And...? How much do doctors make? How much does the average American make?


32 posted on 10/02/2017 10:06:35 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Rurudyne; SeekAndFind

>Constitution? No, that doesn’t matter!

Why, has that venue even been in consideration since the bill was pulled out from some D.C. desk drawer?

The whole ‘debate’ revolved upon ONE sentence: the ability to TAX. That’s as far as D.C./courts discussed.

Nothing about ‘taxing FOR’. Nothing else in A1S8 was considered. Nothing re: 4th/5th/9th/10th/13th...

100yrs+ the Socialists promoted, and excelled, as selling conflicts as ‘legal’; the (R) has been *GREAT*...at searching their belly-buttons for lint. Just watch the (R) as it comes to the Vegas shooting. How many more tomes of ‘laws’ will they concede, in clear violation of ‘shall NOT be infringed’?!

Sorry, but you can’t use GOVT to solve GOVT created problems.


33 posted on 10/02/2017 10:10:58 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"But you’d be taking advantage of a temporary surplus of doctors as you cut their earnings."

There is no surplus of doctors. The AMA and medical schools (and often medical school "feeder" universities) have been restricting supply for at least fifty years (since I was in grad school in the 1970's, and probably since WWII).

34 posted on 10/02/2017 10:28:41 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: SeekAndFind

From a providers perspective of course they would prefer single payer... the overhead of dealing with all the different payers is a huge cost burden on providers.


35 posted on 10/02/2017 10:35:53 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Pearls Before Swine
once you get single payer, you get price controls

You forget that we have crony capitalism here, run by GOPe.

Once you have established both a monopoly and a monopsony, the opportunity for corruption grows enormously. Campaign contributions would escalate in return for favorable treatment of medical costs.

I used to think health care costs had about topped out when it reached 1/6th of GDP, but now it is 1/5th. I don't see why it couldn't be 1/4th of GDP, or more. Of course, housing, transportation, education, food and consumer products industries would have to take even more cuts, but hey, why not?

36 posted on 10/02/2017 10:36:45 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I’d think 100% would support paperwork relief.

Once you have 100% control by the federal bureaucracy why would you expect any paperwork relief? What does bureaucracy do; what is the one thing it is actually good at? Why generating more bureaucracy and hiring more bureaucrats. And with the bottomless pit of US healthcare revenues to raid to pay for it, well, baby, you ain't seen nothing yet.

37 posted on 10/02/2017 10:42:22 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: BlueStateRightist

Honestly the Rubicon was crossed when Medicare became law...

80% of what a person spends on health care in their lifetime is spent during the last 2 years of life on average... meaning the overwhelming amount of money spent on healthcare by far is spent by medicare....

Medicare and the government DOMINATE everything in the industry, if they change their regs, reimbursement or requirements, all others follow suit or get left behind.


38 posted on 10/02/2017 10:48:58 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: SeekAndFind

My GP is from Canada. He once had a chance to attend a conference with the Minister of Health present discussing Canada’s incoming switch to single-payer healthcare. This was obviously decades ago. He got to meet the guy in a bar later during the conference, and he said to the Minister, “You know a lot of this is not going to work.” And he reports that the Minister responded that they knew it wouldn’t work, but they were going to do it anyway.

My doc decided right then that he had to get the hell out of Canada, because of the coming system. He said that out of amazing fortune, he happened to get a call very soon out of the blue with a job opportunity in Houston, TX, where he’s been ever since. He was the youngest chief-of-staff ever at his hospital in Canada, and he had to take the lowest position possible when he came to U.S., but he was willing to take his family and do that to get the hell away from the oncoming Canadian system.


39 posted on 10/02/2017 10:57:04 AM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: neverevergiveup

I don’t disagree with you one bit.

I am saying that the current Rube Goldberg system for physicians to get paid by insurance companies is so burdensome, time consuming, expensive and corrupt (bills DELIBERATELY not paid to force you to keep resubmitting) that I can see how one could become desperate for the alternative.


40 posted on 10/02/2017 10:58:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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