Hefner had such a highly inflated opinion of himself that he thought he could debate Buckley.
And thought people were pinning up his articles on jazz like centerfolds in dorms.
His utter surprise that a feminist would throw a hissy fit having a discussion with him on television is priceless video.
But the idea that America before Playboy in 1953 was full of innocent men utterly uninterested in what they offered is delusional.
I feel that you and I may share some common concerns.