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Watch Russia's Only Operational Battlecruiser Launch A Massive "Shipwreck" Anti-Ship Missile
The Drive ^ | SEPTEMBER 19, 2017 | TYLER ROGOWAY

Posted on 09/19/2017 8:08:23 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Paladin2

Cavitation is incredible. It’s like warp drive. You form your own bubble, then travel in it. LOL And at 235 mph, a torpedo might as well be supersonic.


41 posted on 09/20/2017 11:33:28 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: doorgunner69

Yeah, people forget that the pieces are still coming at you at supersonic speeds.


42 posted on 09/20/2017 11:35:08 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Spktyr

Yes but you leave yourself vulnerable to attack.. The anti missile defense on our ships would be able to take out these missiles..


43 posted on 09/20/2017 12:52:04 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: Davy Crocket

The missile defense we’ve been removing from ships in the last decade? That missile defense?

Current systems as installed on destroyers can only stop 6-8 missiles, then either the ship has to go back to port to reload or it takes hours with a ship’s crane to reload the box launcher. Three cigarette boats mounting four single shot launchers will swamp the current defenses. And an aggressor won’t care if the boats are destroyed after launch.


44 posted on 09/20/2017 7:11:11 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TalonDJ

None of our currently deployed systems can stop more than a few dozen threats. 100 threats alone will swamp a current CBG.


45 posted on 09/20/2017 7:12:12 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

SS-N-19 has a range of 338 miles. At mach 2 that is a 15 minute TOF. Two things about that. Getting a large enemy combatant within 400NM of a CVBG is going to be tough in wartime-for them. If fired from maximum range 15 minutes is a long heads up time. In wartime satellites will tell us the moment this attack begins.


46 posted on 09/20/2017 7:23:50 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

You are assuming the recon sats will be *left* up. They won’t. China has been quietly shooting up satellites passing over their territory lately.


47 posted on 09/21/2017 1:36:09 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

How about this?

http://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/phalanx/


48 posted on 09/21/2017 12:21:30 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: Davy Crocket

That’s nice, but we don’t have those installed. The Navy has been removing those for SeaRAM installations. There has been a rather hasty reversal of the decade long trend to removing Phalanx from Navy ships but it will be years before even a simple majority of our surface combatants have Phalanx again.

The recent production Flight IIA Arleigh Burke destroyers had NO provision for CIWS at all in the first place and have just two years ago started having CIWS slowly and painfully refitted. And, by the way, the CIWS as retrofitted can only protect some of the side and rear arc of the ship, the forward arc is completely undefended.

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/can-this-phalanx-radar-unit-be-mated-to-other-things-i-1733673409


49 posted on 09/21/2017 12:39:05 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Lets just let our foes keep thinking that :D


50 posted on 09/21/2017 2:15:33 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Spktyr

we have something similar on our destroyers and
cruisers.. Works the same way..


51 posted on 09/21/2017 11:15:49 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: Spktyr

How about this system

http://www.defencetalk.com/raytheon-completes-ship-self-defense-system-deliveries-39674/


52 posted on 09/21/2017 11:32:20 PM PDT by Davy Crocket
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To: Davy Crocket

No, we don’t. WE TOOK THEM OFF THE SHIPS AND ORDERED NEW SHIPS WITHOUT THEM. We are hastily trying to put them back on and trying to rig up the ships that didn’t come with them.

Read the link I sent you.


53 posted on 09/21/2017 11:50:46 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Davy Crocket

That’s what they replaced Phalanx with in some installations. Once that box magazine is empty, the ship is out of action for hours or has to go back to port to reload.

Then under Obama they started taking *those* off the ships. Said they weren’t necessary.


54 posted on 09/21/2017 11:52:09 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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