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To: genghis

Why doesn’t he perp walk a few dozen big business owners instead? He doesn’t need any EOs at all to do that, just enforce already existing laws. The rest will get the message.


3 posted on 09/19/2017 7:33:45 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Why? Five words. Republicans and chamber of commerce.


8 posted on 09/19/2017 7:37:15 AM PDT by enduserindy ( I always smile when my competition doubles down on stupid.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

THIS!!! exactly!! Businesses are the Magnets for these...take away that magnet!!


15 posted on 09/19/2017 7:43:10 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

As a life long bookkeeper, I can assure you that the laws regarding hiring non-citizens, etc, have been in place for over 40 years. The biggest problem is that employers—small contractors for example, cash checks from clients & pay CASH to those workers. I once did the books for a roofing company. Took me MONTHS to figure out that was happening. 18 employees on the books-—18 more getting CASH ....for years before I got there. I refused to sign any more payroll reports after that.


20 posted on 09/19/2017 7:45:28 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

What I see is enforcement is gearing up in stages, which it has to do because at this point most illegals are entitled to a hearing so we have to gear up for that. Those being deported now have been detained under circumstances that allow immediate deportation or have already had their hearing and under court ordered deportation but have been allowed to stay.

The next stage is to clear out the clogged up immigration courts so more illegals can be detained, have their hearing and be deported. That is also being done now but the media is not reporting it. Illegals are deliberately clogging the immigration courts and have been for years as a way to be allowed to stay- they thought they just had to drag their feet long enough and we would give in and make them citizens. The government is building more detention centers- with immigration courts right in the centers and hiring new judges to speed up the process. When that is geared up far fewer will request a hearing because they know that won’t allow them to stay and if they agree to waive hearing they can apply to come back legally. If they have to be forcibly deported through the whole process they are not allowed to ever come back legally, even to visit.

Now we come to going after businesses, that has never been done the right way. Many businesses were allowed to hire illegals without consequence, and others were raided time after time. I have my ideas that in the past that was used for political purposes but no proof of that. The thing is if you are going after say a huge chicken processing plant that hires several hundred illegals or more on a regular basis- they are going to have big gun attorneys to fight a long drawn out case against the charges. The big raids that have happened in the past have taken a long time to gather evidence to even go after the business in court. That is why often when a business is raided they don’t even go after the business itself. Now if you are being fair you are not going after one, you are going after all- so the court battles would be epic with the chance that some would be lost due to liberal judges not following the law and the laws would then be weakened. So if I was in charge I would do all the other steps, deport those already deportable, secure the border, begin to strictly enforce immigration laws. I see this is happening though the media is not reporting it. At that point it is already harder for ABC Chicken and other businesses to continue to hire illegals. Go after them about the hiring process, if they don’t comply fine them. Then when the process of hiring illegals is already weakened begin to go after the companies that have them working. There would not be so many- most would see the writing on the wall and get into compliance on their own and at that point it would be easier to prosecute those that are being stubborn.

I don’t know if this makes sense to you but parts of the process of getting rid of illegals is going to be far more difficult than others. Protections that have been put in place over many years will have to be broken piece by piece or the process will become so contentious it won’t get anywhere. We need to do the basics and then tackle the hard stuff. All of these protections and delays that have been put in place is why politicians and those that support illegal immigration have been saying for years that it would be impossible to deport all the illegals, secure the border, and go after businesses that hire them. The roadblocks have been carefully put in place over many years. We can do this, we can succeed but we have to take down the roadblocks along the way, we cannot just go and do it like we could have and did years ago. I would love to see all the illegals rounded up, sent back and those that hired them face serious consequences tomorrow but if that was even started in the current climate it would be stopped before it could get anywhere.

At this point this is a war against illegal immigration, we have to fight each battle along the way. We cannot simply full force attack all at once or we will lose the war.


68 posted on 09/19/2017 8:59:15 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Isn’t e-verify still the law?


70 posted on 09/19/2017 9:06:24 AM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; genghis

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Why doesn’t he perp walk a few dozen big business owners instead? He doesn’t need any EOs at all to do that, just enforce already existing laws. The rest will get the message.
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Rather he do the arresting of GOVT employees; more egregious violators there I suspect. The employers will quickly figure out who’s next down the chain...


81 posted on 09/19/2017 10:14:09 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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