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To: tumblindice
You seem to have the idea that a border wall will magically stop illegal immigration. It won't. It will slow it down and that's a good thing, but if you think that a wall on the southern border is going to block the swarms of parasites coming here to partake of the welfare bounty that the government provides by plundering the hard work of those of us who belong here you are sadly mistaken. We need to get rid on the anchor baby concept, we need to make citizenship a requirement for welfare, and we need to send the illegals who are already here back to where they came from.

We have probably 20,000,000 illegals in this country, and while the wall is important it is not going to be effective without deportation of the illegals already here. There are 800,000 so called "dreamers" EVERY ONE OF WHICH IS HERE ILLEGALLY. Keeping them as part of a deal is not going to go over with Trump's base. Yes build the wall AND DEPORT THE ILLEGALS as quickly as it can be done.

61 posted on 09/18/2017 9:10:32 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
There's nothing `magical' about a wall. Right. Your argument is all over the place. You think those of us who demand a wall also want amnesty? That's jabberwocky. I don't know where to begin ... we realists want real border security: the sine qua non of national sovereignty, and illegals of all stripes tossed out, but for good. Re-phrase and shorten what you're trying to say. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
64 posted on 09/18/2017 9:40:38 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: from occupied ga

OK, your concern seems to be that we are about to be sold out (on DACA?) in exchange for a bowl of savory stew?

This is actually nevertrumper thinking: that President Trump is a Trojan horse prepared to do as much harm as possible in one term.
I believe he wants to be re-elected. What was the alternative? A guy who photo-op’d at the border, thinking of the children with teddy bears and balloons?
Congress critters, knowing a good gig when they see one (What did they work? Ten days over the last month or two?) also want to be returned to their grazing grounds.
Amnesty, like Social Security reform, is a political “third rail”.

Trump is a realist. A businessman. Legislation would have to be passed to change federal immigration laws, laws which do exactly what you, and I, and most here want: an America that Americans determine, not resident socialists, their pet foreigners and their Bund here in America.

So let The Donald do what he does best: schmoozing. He gives the `rats the old pillow talk—they really are like children, isolated in their little Beltway political world, like ivory tower eggheads—and we finally get real border security.
The border is actually secured, there are no substantive changes to law from our fearless Uniparty pols and the illegals are sent back home—to Ireland, Mexico, Guatemala, China, wherever they came from. And we can work on changing the ludicrous “anchor baby” policy. (It’s not law. It’s just past practice.)

Some of them aren’t going anywhere for now, but they weren’t invited and are here illegally, or overstayed their visa welcomes and are here illegally, and we know where they are or can find them.
It is said that a good business deal is one where both parties walk away a little disappointed. When the dust settles, the `rats and their GOP-e allies will be a lot disappointed.
Like revenge, justice is a dish best served cold.


66 posted on 09/18/2017 10:22:45 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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