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President Trump’s border wall could carve path through Native American lands
KVOA-TV ^ | September 16, 2017 | NBC News

Posted on 09/16/2017 4:14:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Tohono O’odham Nation Chairman Edward Manuel is determined to prevent President Trump's proposed border wall from carving a path through his tribe's lands — a move which he said would separate members from much needed resources and disrupt the community’s way of life.

The nation, which is about the size of Connecticut, is a federally recognized tribe that has land and members on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border.

“Walls are made to keep animals in or out, walls cannot contain people,” Manuel said. “People are too intelligent. They can always find a way to get over the wall, under the wall or through the wall.”

The Tohono O’odham Nation is just one of many groups that have expressed concerns about the potential path of the president's proposed $1.6 billion border wall. The National Congress of American Indians is also calling on the U.S. government to work with tribes on the border to address their concerns about the impact on communities.

Much of the nearly 2,000 mile border is owned by private citizens. The government may gain rights to the land via “eminent domain laws.” These laws would allow the land to be bought out from under the owners, some of whom have already begun receiving notices.....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: borders; hiyahiyahiya; indians; nativeamericans; toobad; toughluck; trump; umad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Give the Native Americans jobs to help do the building.


41 posted on 09/16/2017 5:01:31 PM PDT by doug from upland (Mayflower Hotel --- hotel of choice for Dem officials and their hookers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let the native Americans take care of things. We can provide a bounty. They’ll handle things far better than the progressives would.

And, aside from that snarky answer, methinks the native Americans don’t want illegal aliens walking through their land any more than we do.


42 posted on 09/16/2017 5:06:14 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Dusty Road

Is the rio grande a big river along it’s entire Texas border?


43 posted on 09/16/2017 5:13:06 PM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
is a federally recognized tribe that has land and members on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border.

South of the border, they're called Mexicans and they have no say on the matter.

44 posted on 09/16/2017 5:13:36 PM PDT by umgud
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shades of kurdistan


45 posted on 09/16/2017 5:15:00 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (Democrat calls for kumbaya must be met with their blood on the groundvacuum doesn't begin to clean a)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...“Walls are made to keep animals in or out, walls cannot contain people,” Manuel said. “People are too intelligent. They can always find a way to get over the wall, under the wall or through the wall...”

Well, the same can be said about anything. Dumb ass liberals like him would suggest that putting bars on a store in a high crime area shouldn't be attempted, because people can always defeat them.

I would tell the guy to go pound sand.

46 posted on 09/16/2017 5:16:13 PM PDT by rlmorel (If all you have is a Hammer and Sickle, everything looks like a fascist. *HT to Freeper GCFADG!*)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is there a square inch of land on this continent that isn’t sacred to the Indians?


47 posted on 09/16/2017 5:19:58 PM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (GrouchNewo))
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To: xzins

Not a big river by any means but it is constantly flowing. In the canyon area’s it narrows but gets pretty fast. Class 5 and 6 rapids in the canyon when the water is up. The river is a whole different story when it comes to a fence. Since the border is the middle of the river you’ll never see a fence on the Texas southern border.


48 posted on 09/16/2017 5:21:06 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Spok

yes..... much of East Tennessee, South West Virginia and Central Kentucky. They sold it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Grant_Deed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_Grant_Deed


49 posted on 09/16/2017 5:24:02 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (Democrat calls for kumbaya must be met with their blood on the groundvacuum doesn't begin to clean a)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it’s anything like Rancho Miarage, Ca the indians will be VERY VERY happy about this.


50 posted on 09/16/2017 5:24:11 PM PDT by Aria
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To: deport

A fence already runs through it.


51 posted on 09/16/2017 5:26:45 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tohono O’odham Nation Chairman Edward Manuel

Just waiting for the right amount of Wampum in $$$..........

52 posted on 09/16/2017 5:27:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Da Coyote

“”And, aside from that snarky answer, methinks the native Americans don’t want illegal aliens walking through their land any more than we do.””

I believe that already a high traffic area with possible tribal involvement.


53 posted on 09/16/2017 5:28:36 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: txrefugee
"Native American tribes will do anything to make a buck. They’ll sell the right of way when the price is right."

Yes. I'm happy for them. I kinda like how the Indian reservations have turned out. They're small areas all over the place that are not regulated by the state or federal government.

54 posted on 09/16/2017 5:30:49 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How do you build a wall in the center of the Rio Grande?


55 posted on 09/16/2017 5:32:47 PM PDT by batterycommander (I learned my Artillery skills from the United States Marines. USNA 65)
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To: batterycommander

Ummm, same way they built a dam across the Colorado River....just guessing.


56 posted on 09/16/2017 5:34:54 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a showstopper.

An opening of negotiations, just like along the rest of the border. The Federal Government has eminent domain, but there are always local issues to work out - especially water access and where gates will be needed.

Put up a little stink, and you can get the FedGov to throw in a few extras as part of the construction plan, like water pumping stations, or access control points that will hire local Tribe members for good FedGov careers with benefits.

Really, whoever is in charge for the Tribe has a responsibility to try to get a good deal. Just business.


57 posted on 09/16/2017 5:35:06 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: batterycommander

Ain’t that where the boundary is?


58 posted on 09/16/2017 5:35:49 PM PDT by batterycommander (I learned my Artillery skills from the United States Marines. USNA 65)
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To: batterycommander
How do you build a wall in the center of the Rio Grande?

We should build the wall on the Mexican side. "We're taking the river."

59 posted on 09/16/2017 5:36:34 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: batterycommander

I guess they can wait till the dry season.


60 posted on 09/16/2017 5:37:43 PM PDT by batterycommander (I learned my Artillery skills from the United States Marines. USNA 65)
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