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This is sounding much better. Trump apparently got the message. We'll see how this plays out.
1 posted on 09/15/2017 7:44:43 PM PDT by Rockitz
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Start with NO AMNESTY, then lets see how these “students” finish the education and they and their illegal families go home. Simple. Anything else is amnesty, pure and simple. Primary any elected member of Congress that votes for amnesty, one term Trump if he signs amnesty, wall or no wall.


51 posted on 09/16/2017 7:13:36 AM PDT by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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Regardless of how this turns out, I blame the do-nothing Congress for the whole damn fiasco.

President Trump is in a no-win situation for a problem he had nothing to do with creating. I know he will find the best possible outcome for the American people and I know he will take enormous heat for it no matter what happens.

I shall continue to fully support President Trump but every opportunity I get to primary out one of these gutless Republican bastards in Congress, I will take it.

52 posted on 09/16/2017 7:18:55 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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Here is a radical idea for addressing the DACA problem, and illegal aliens in general.

What if President Trump were to offer to pardon all the citizens of Mexico who entered illegally, but not include people who overstayed visas or entered illegally from Mexico or elsewhere who are citizens of other countries?

Hear me out...

Pardoning these Mexican citizens illegally resident here does NOT make them legal; it only removes the penalties that resulted from their illegal entry.

If one barrier to motivating these people to leave and reenter legally is the fear of financial and/or time penalties for their original entry, this would remove that barrier. They would be allowed to enter legally without the fear of their past getting in the way, but they would still have to enter legally.

This would now free up Congress to write legislation that does not have to deal with this. Congress can try to pass legislation that fast-tracks the reentry process.

In other words, perhaps they do not have to physically leave and re-enter; maybe Congress can find a way for people without police records and who have steady jobs to stay here while they follow a documentation process to become legal residents. Once that process completes, then the five-year residency clock can begin before they can be considered for naturalization.

Congress would still have to deal with the issue of people with felony records, and people who have stolen identities (like social security numbers). A pardon would only be limited to the single act of illegal entry; these people would not be pardoned for any other crimes that occurred since then, including ID theft or other crimes that might be argued to stem from the illegal entry.

President Trump would have to very delicately explain to the American people why this is NOT amnesty (and therefore not breaking a campaign promise). The pardon would only cancel the penalty for the illegal entry to encourage illegal aliens to begin a legal entry/documentation process.

Also, Trump should tie this pardon to some concession from Democrats and/or Congress, such as funding the wall or tax reform. The President would only sign such a pardon simultaneously with a bill sent to his desk.

Thoughts?

-PJ

56 posted on 09/16/2017 8:26:22 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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Another 7-10 Days for the deserters to speculate.


57 posted on 09/16/2017 8:35:47 AM PDT by McGruff (2017 or 1984?)
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I think when this immigration reform is done there will be a lot of unhappy people around here.


64 posted on 09/16/2017 10:10:16 AM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God)
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The no-hysteria version:

Americans will still be able to sponsor their spouses, children and parents but not their in-laws or cousins. Immediate family members and parents with serious medical conditions will be allowed to come and stay. Those who were brought here as children and grew up here to be Americans in culture, practice and loyalty will be staying and becoming citizens. Green cards for sale to high-cash-flow political class folks in other countries will end. Work visas will be fewer and more regulated. More fence and other security will be built in areas where it is needed.

Followed by intermittent, hysterical screeching from radical political, global business and foreign factions.


73 posted on 09/16/2017 12:56:54 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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I hope Trump will keep his promise and give no amnesty and no special perks for Dreamers. He would lose much of his base if he does.

I didn't expect Trump to quickly deal with Obamacare - not for want of trying but because of the corruption within the GOPe and having Ryan for speaker. I had only one expectation - no amnesty to illegal aliens, which includes Dreamers, and no citizenship to anchor babies.

If Trump goes back on the no amnesty promise, then many will feel betrayed and no longer trust any candidate.

93 posted on 09/16/2017 5:24:04 PM PDT by Dante3
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