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1 posted on 09/13/2017 8:45:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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The answer to lies is truth. If the things that the warmists looked at were the only things we could know, it would be quite a pardonable error to be concerned about this.

But they aren’t. They are giving us a keyhole view. And their invective against warmism skeptics should give us pause about what’s driving these folks. Oh, the skeptics aren’t just “wrong” or “mistaken.” They are “deniers” — a term which is normally reserved to describe attitudes about absolute revealed theological truths. And even there, only sometimes.


2 posted on 09/13/2017 8:49:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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Aida Farough, assistant professor of geology, said as a scientist, she has no doubt climate change is real and is happening in real time

In other words, I have come to have faith in the cult of the climate gods. Mother gaia has provided us a perfect habitat, and a sinful and wicked mankind is destroying it. He will be punished with fire!

3 posted on 09/13/2017 8:50:04 AM PDT by PGR88
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“...increases after viewing scientific information ...”

Change that to “....increases after viewing pseudo-scientific information....”

I’ll debate that “lecturer” anywhere, anytime, and any place.
Er, change “any place” to “a reputable STEM department in a REAL university”.


4 posted on 09/13/2017 8:50:20 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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The alarmists’ case would be stronger if they weren’t caught fudging the data to make it look worse than it is.


5 posted on 09/13/2017 8:53:17 AM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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Oh are they push this hard.

Folks, sanity is gone and unfortunately there is a carbon tax in our future. The only thing that has saved us is Trump and the Leftists and Communists are hitting him hard from all sides.


8 posted on 09/13/2017 9:05:50 AM PDT by dhs12345
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If one’s basic assumptions are fallacious, one cannot help but come to incorrect conclusions. They can go through their steps agains and again and be wrong, if their assumptions are wrong. Alas, there are people getting salaries at universities who are not investigating the veracity of what they have been programmed to call axiomatic.

I went to my college reunion at a well-regarded college in a well-regarded university and the “religion” of “man-make climate change” was central to the reunion programming, coming off not as a scientific presentation, but as a coordinated sales pitch, dripping with sarcasm for anyone who “still” had another point of view.

This, along with a market basket of other politically correct propaganda and a big, big push for the presidential candidacy of Barack Obama and adulation of the “glory days” of full-scale civil disobedience in defiance of university administrators.


9 posted on 09/13/2017 9:07:58 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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I have a solution: force the AGW people to provide facts and exact measurable predictions. If the measured data fails to match the predictions exactly then “the law” becomes void and all participants are punished by either losing their jobs or by public scorn or both.

Put your money and your reputation on the line.

That includes the scientists to claim that it absolute. No scientist would ever claim that science is exact and absolute.

We need to force this and the punishment should be harsh.


11 posted on 09/13/2017 9:13:15 AM PDT by dhs12345
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“Climate change” is like a cargo cult when the cargo never arrived the first time!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult


12 posted on 09/13/2017 9:14:01 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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I believe the skeptics of climate change have not received proper education in science,

My skepticism of AGW (not climate change) is based entirely in science - that of Paleoclimatology, and even climate shifts in recorded human history. Your belief in AGW is based largely on computer models and manipulated data sets, which by definition is not science.

14 posted on 09/13/2017 9:15:29 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Awareness? It’s lied about in most tv shows, movies, news articles, schools and now telethons. The only people who seem to believe it are those that are receiving lots of money to. What exactly does that tell you about it?


16 posted on 09/13/2017 9:21:49 AM PDT by Trillian
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I’m a K-state grad, though when walking those grounds I wore a much younger man’s Wranglers.
A lot of the professors there, particularly in the soft sciences, are as guilty of the `me too!’ fallacy as local newspapers in small towns are of wanting to be the NYT.

The comment following the article is probably typical of the way most Wildcats thought about this lecture:

pacman • 16 minutes ago
“It is vacuous speech at best. No one questions the fact that climate changes. The question is, are we warming, cooling, about to enter a cooling phase, increased warming, the level of cooling or warming and the proximate causes. Significant numbers of physicists, climatologists, meteorologists, geologists, and others would disagree with this pontificating psychologist. It’ always amusing to listen to clowns like him implying those who disagree with him are wrong and they simply need to change their thinking. Perhaps he and those who espouse his drivel should accept the data that exonerate man as the prime mover of climate change.”

IOW, don’t pizzle on my Noconas and tell me it’s raining.


18 posted on 09/13/2017 9:30:10 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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Thousands of charlatans, perhaps tens of thousands of charlatans, are getting wealthy from this scam off of taxpayer money.


21 posted on 09/13/2017 11:14:30 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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