Posted on 09/10/2017 2:02:02 PM PDT by NautiNurse
The entire Florida Peninsula has begun to experience Hurricane Irma following landfall at Marco Island. Thousands of Floridians who evacuated the Atlantic cost to Gulf Coast areas found their safe shelter under direct threat from Hurricane Irma as the forecast shifted W Friday night and Saturday. Prayers for all in the storm path.
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Hurricane Irma Live Thread I
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Hurricane Irma Live Thread III
You don't watch television if you can say that with a straight face.
You’re as sharp as a bag of rocks I’d say.
Guess that’s why you’re really
hyping anti-hype, huh. I mean, a low S/N doesn’t really care who’s saying what, does it?
You did some canes. We get it.
Thank you for your erudite, detailed and learned opinion, lol.
This is a discussion where an agreed upon point of reference matters. Was Irma overhyped as a Cat 5 just south of Florida? No. Was it overhyped as a Cat 3 making landfall in SW Florida? Yes, to some extent at that point as news crews tried to make the winds into something insane in Miami. But that also misses the larger point that other posters have missed. Once a weaker Irma approached Florida, the main threat was no longer wind. It was flooding. Flooding does not make for spectacular live TV blowing on-screen personalities down the street. It instead is a slow, creeping process that is the primary catalyst for storm damage, in 90 percent of hurricane-related damage. Jacksonville had record flooding from Irma, in mere tropical storm winds, hundreds of miles away from landfall, due to the dynamics of the storm and that section of coastline. Heck, Alison was a minimal tropical storm that caused 9 billion in damage. And that is the point. Irma could well exceed Andrew's damage, given it was a flooding event over a much larger area. And no hurricane wind building codes can stop floodwaters. I guess to some posters, a home destroyed by wind is somehow more destroyed than a storm by flooding. To the flooding victims, they couldn't give a rat's ass. All they see are sodden furniture, soggy drywall and an long-running fight against mold.
And regarding claims that Irma is hyped to make AGW claims? The hype morons do that for all weather, so that claim is pointless and counterproductive.
I’ve been watching your comms on this thread and you’ve mirrored my thoughts.
Your second reply does not mesh well with your first, can you clarify?
Yea this is really winding down-not.
Flooding and hurricanes tend to go hand in hand on this part of the Atlantic coast at least, so I can’t say as I agree with your assessment that anyone was discounting that likelihood. Slow moving storms are worse, but some extent of flooding is associated with them all.
You have no respect for the reason for this thread.Makes me sad .
With your kindly assistance I’m sure that can be managed.
As I replied to you via FReepmail, it’s really easy to keep the thread professional and informational. Honest. Act professional, stop with the name-calling and emoting directed at people who merely disagree. Try it. Then you won’t has a sad.
There was surprise surge today in Jacksonville. I posted a map upthread about how the tropical storm-force winds massively expanded at landfall. The track of the storm pulled those into Jacksonville and points north, and the long fetch of those winds meant high surge, and that ran into the runoff coming downriver from 15 inches of rain. Sometimes the overall physical dynamics partially dictate the ground truth, and it has nothing to do with what category the storm happens to be at the time.
I just hit abuse.Does that count.You have been asked over and over to leave this thread.It’s at this point to find out if everyone is OK.You are spaming the thread.Love you but let it go.
BTTT, NautiNurse.
Thank you for saying what I was too angry to put in words to throw back at the braggart.
The people with damaged, flooded, or destroyed homes don’t give a rat’s ass that wardaddy has been through worse, suffered more, in a bigger and badder hurricane.
Even tropical storms or nor’easters can cause significant flooding, let alone an actual hurricane. I’m on the same page as far as that’s concerned.
If a mod asks me to leave, of course I will leave. Just remember, want professional and informational? Then ACT PROFESSIONAL and dispense with the name-calling.
OK?
Sorry, I was too short with my thoughts. Your reply to me mirrors my thoughts about how you’ve replied on this thread. You really have no clue about how these storms happen, how they evolve every moment. You don’t understand how the water in Tampa Bay can be pushed out by the wind? You don’t understand why tampa’s damage was less than possible?
There’s just a lot that you don’t understand, yet you argue. You remind me of my “know it all” brother. It’s tiring.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It’s a great idea!
I’m not a professional.Just a housewife with 6 kids sorry.I just asked if you pet your dog.
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