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America’s Crisis with Opioids
Townhall.com ^ | September 10, 2017 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 09/10/2017 2:34:17 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: sargon

Oh, So you are one of those guys.

My point was “My is this happening now with Opiods?”

Not alcohol, or what every you ingest or inject to make you not deal with reality. Why are prescription opiods the current drug of choice when they were not before? These are not being sold on the street, it is coming from Walgreens.


101 posted on 09/12/2017 3:19:38 PM PDT by redgolum
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To: sargon

Well, sure. There were some pretty fringe people doing heroin then, too. We didn’t have these synthetic opiate/opioid pills being passed around in such quantities, though. That’s what cranked up the addiction which has resulted in the widespread heroin use today.


102 posted on 09/12/2017 6:34:01 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: redgolum
Why are prescription opioids the current drug of choice when they were not before?

I don't know or care. I'm sure there are psychologists who could hold forth on that topic ad nauseum.

I only know that what goes on between a doctor, his patient, and his pharmacist has no business being invaded by Government and an ever-expanding police state based on arbitrary law.

Such problems are treated with education and rehabilitation, not domination and incarceration.

As with any other substance of known strength, it takes a lot of ignorance and irresonsibility to kill yourself with something "legal", and although there may be high incidences of addiction, the vast majority of opiate deaths are either suicide, or from taking street drugs of unknown strength.

I personally know of several people who have died of OD's, and in every single case it was from turning to the street—in some cases because that became the only avenue for the person's "medication", "relief", "escape", "recreation", their "pursuit of happiness", or whatever else you'd like to call it.

Additionally, I know of many cases where people who have perfectly legitimate needs for pain management are robbed of their dignity—not by the medication, but by a paranoid bureaucratic leviathan that makes legally obtaining their medication a humiliating logistical nightmare.

This whole hysterical "epidemic" is about power, profits, and control, nothing more, and the wealthy and connected—like Rush Limbaugh, for instance—live by one set of medical rules, while the "riff raff" are treated like criminal dogs.

Prohibition doesn't work, period. When alcohol Prohibition was passed, it, too, was in response to an "epidemic" of alcoholism and assicuated domestic abuse. Predictably, it was driven primarily by emotionalism, in this case women—who had recently gained the right to vote. And when they did, they went on a crusade to save the men of America from themselves.

Did it work? No. Did alcohol addiction go down? Sure. But the problems created far outweighed the benefits—not to mention the minor fact that the law was Tyrannical.

IMHO, nobody who calls himself a "small government" conservative—or believes in Constitutional rights—can morally (or even Constitutionally) support the ever-expanding police state which is necessary to enforce this nation's contraband laws. One cannot be a Prohibitionist and believe in minimal government, because enforcing such laws must involve the creation of a massive police state which must trample numerous Unalienable and Constitutional rights. Period.

The so-called "War on Drugs" is an abject failure, and the more that authoritarian solutions are imposed, the worse the situation gets. Due to draconian "mandatory minimum" sentencing laws, for example—promugated the runaway regulatory nanny-statists—you see murderers and violent criminals who serve less time than some poor sap who gets caught with a handful of the "wrong" pills. That's not Justice by any stretch of the imagination.

Another thing that causes such personal destruction—massive property crime—is the artificially high prices that are created due to the fact that so much of the activity ends up occurring on the black market.

Prohibition will always fail, just as it utterly failed with alcohol—and for identical reasons.

Education and rehabilitation, not legislation. Nobody—not one American—should face prison time merely for possessing the wrong plant, liquid spirits, chemical, or medicine. That's a Tyrannical travesty, and from it flows a multitude of evils which far exceed any potential benefits.

When somebody engages in negligence, violence, or fraud due to their addiction or intoxication—in other words, when they commit an actual crime—that's when Law becomes legitimate and ceases to be arbitrary.

The more challenging solutions—the ones which don't involve draconian shortcuts and authoritarian policies—are the only ones that will ever have a chance of succeeding—and they also carry the additional benefit of not being Tyrannical or unconstitutional. I'll never believe any different.

103 posted on 09/12/2017 6:59:18 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Exactly. My drugs were weed and beer.(Early 70’s)And I don’t recall pills and stuff laying around the medicine cabinet other than bayer aspirin.

So, what happened? I don’t know but the group of scientists who invented the lethal combo? How did they not even know the possible long term effects of the drug? I mean, was the fact that acetaphetamine ate ones liver ever seriously contemplated? Whether it worked for the pain or not? There was no chance at a more palatable combo? How come the drug hasn’t evolved into something less addicting and dangerous if the ingredients are killing and addicting people? Why wait? Why aren’t they doing something about the Drug itself instead of bearing down on the doctors or the users? Why not have the FBI/FDA, whoever, talk to the dudes who created the monster in the first place?

I really don’t have a clue as to the answer to my questions. I don’t.


104 posted on 09/13/2017 12:53:49 AM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: RacerX1128

We had pills sometimes, but speed and sedatives. The oxycodones were marketed as “non-addictive”. Perdue Pharma lied and set up a marketing/sales operation of vast dimensions.


105 posted on 09/13/2017 6:43:49 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Purdue Pharma L.P. is a privately held pharmaceutical company. In 2007 it paid out one of the largest fines ever levied against a pharmaceutical firm for mislabeling its product OxyContin, and three executives were found guilty of criminal charges.....

I forgot to tell you. I am a producer of entertainment. I work in West Hollywood. I sort of detest Hollywood and the bubble that surrounds it.

One of the main reasons I set up Rock Entertainment LLC was to creatively destroy the little corner of Hollywood that I currently work in. I have produced 4 sort of pretty big children’s animated series. All involving Speed Racer. Google me. I don’t mind at all. James Rocknowski. LinkedIn. Go for it. I’m not hiding.

I formed my new company 2 months ago. I dedicated my company to God and the memory of my wife who was killed by these guys, via an OD, 4 months ago.

So, the above Paragraph on Perdue Pharma....is the beginning of Rock Entertainment’s new offering..”The True Silent Killers, Meet Purdue Pharmacy”

Tag line: “They killed my wife”

Think I have the courage and the proper motivation to pull this off? I do. I know how to do this. I was born for this. Can do it in my sleep. Not a pat on my back. Just a simple fact.

So I am going to do it.

Please stay tuned.

And thank you from the bottom of my heart Emmett McCarthy. You, sir, will get an ‘onscreen’, “special thanks to”...screen credit. But without any monetary stimulus....:). I’m broke...for now....


106 posted on 09/13/2017 2:37:41 PM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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To: RacerX1128

That is very impressive and I whole heartedly endorse that,man. I’ve lived this for nearly 10 years with my son and don’t know what the outcome will be. We need more and more people to get very open and very public about all of this. I’m glad you have the platform to get it out. On the God part. I have something I’ll get to you privately, OK?


107 posted on 09/13/2017 7:00:38 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Got it. Thanks FRiend. I’ll be pinging you privately.


108 posted on 09/14/2017 8:40:03 PM PDT by RacerX1128 (Cornered in CA)
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