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To: lodi90; RummyChick

Take away from the illegal aliens all subsidies, income, and legal shielding by targeting the agencies, companies, and bureaus that provide them. They will then self-deport. There's no value in staying in the USA when you are broke and hungry, with no means to fix either, and must always be on the lookout for the law. No frog marching is required. It is the cheapest strategy and solution possible. I'd even contribute gas money for their exodus. If that becomes Trump's ambition, I'll wholeheartedly support him.


343 posted on 09/06/2017 12:16:45 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

“Take away from the illegal aliens all subsidies, income, and legal shielding by targeting the agencies, companies, and bureaus that provide them. They will then self-deport. There’s no value in staying in the USA when you are broke and hungry, with no means to fix either, and must always be on the lookout for the law. No frog marching is required. It is the cheapest strategy and solution possible. I’d even contribute gas money for their exodus. If that becomes Trump’s ambition, I’ll wholeheartedly support him.”

We are seeing that with less guys hanging out by Home Depot and Orchard.

Less of the rambling wreck old pu trucks with
yard care gear on and in the back of the truck.

Our yard guy, legal for over 2 decades had two interesting twists on what’s is happening:

1. He lost one of his guys, legal with green card, but his wife was not. They went back to Mexico.
2. He told us to hold on referrals to him as he has all the new business he can handle since Trump became president. I told him, this would be a good time to get rid of some bad customers. He agreed.

A son of friends, a true WASP had a great yard maintenance business down here and sold out and moved north last year. The guys, he sold out to wanted him back to handle the premium accts as they have all the business they can handle with the illegal yard guys heading back to Mexico. So he is back here until the winter storms hit and will head back north to ski during the winter.


359 posted on 09/06/2017 5:28:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Did voting for Trump for President, make 62+ million of us into Deplorable Racists/Nazis? NO! NADA!)
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To: so_real

“Take away from the illegal aliens all subsidies, income, and legal shielding by targeting the agencies, companies, and bureaus that provide them. They will then self-deport”

That is the crux of the problem. Milton Friedman has some excellent discussions on youtube of why immigration was never a problem until the above incentives were institutionalized. Prior to that, we attracted intelligent hardworking immigrants whose primary motivation was a Free Republic.

What Republicans refuse to acknowledge is that they are creating a permanent democrat majority who will always vote for more free stuff. We see that now and it is only going to get worse.

Just as in Obamacare-light proposals, Republicans will want to put “forgiveness” first in any DACA legislation, with measures to enforce borders and limit government dependancy in phases 2,3,4....

Reagan made a huge mistake putting the cart before the horse in signing the 1986 immigration bill that relied on enforcement later.

I hope President Trump’s emotions don’t override logic, reason and history when it comes time to sign a DACA bill.


363 posted on 09/06/2017 8:01:01 PM PDT by MyDogAteMyBallot
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