[TalBlack]

Oh for heavenns sake, someone could just look out the window and say “ Hey, look, there’s a ship!

[BuffaloJack]

Ships should immediately return to navigation methods we used 50 years ago. If a ship can’t navigate by the stars and with charts, a compass and clock, then it has no business being out of port.

[Paal Gulli]

It’s called “meaconing,” not spoofing.

[Secret Agent Man]

We just assuming everything bad is Russian now?

The Chinese would be way more plausible.

[blackdog]

My Northstar Loran C was just as accurate as my GPS and more accurate than my VOR. I used it on non-precision approaches and found it to be as accurate as the localizer, just no glide slope.

Everyone has become too complacent in navigation.

[faucetman]

I read the entire Navy report on the Fitzgerald.

In it was nothing but praise for ALL the crew. The professionalism, the bravery, the valor, the embodiment of their training in a time of disaster.

Calmly filing down the passageway (hallway) out of the flooded area in waste deep to neck deep water without panicking.

Some of the first sailors to arrive at the ladder to escape the flooding of the compartment, helped others to escape waiting to the very last minute, until they were submerged themselves, to climb to safety. Even then, reaching into the flooded compartment hoping to grab some trapped sailor, WHICH THEY SUCCESSFULLY DID!

This is the same crew who were derelict in there duties on watch, absent from their stations, failing to perform their jobs while underway.

This same exemplary crew that performed heroically under extreme stress and life threatening danger, acting in full accordance with their training, were slough offs when it came to performing their assigned duties? It couldn’t have been just one slough off crewman, it would have had to have been an entire watch of slough offs.

This would seem to be “impossible” because it is IMPOSSIBLE!!!

Our navy, FOUR ships now have been targeted (that we know of because of collisions), is under some sort of cyber attack. Hacking?, EMP?, something.

The Navy can not, will not, admit to such a disastrous occurrence.

I am amazed at how gullible so many of you are in believing in this supposed misconduct and how quick you are to throw our sailors under their ships.

I am PROUD of our Sailors and I am ashamed for those who doubt them.

[mac_truck]

As usual there is zero empirical evidence presented that a) GPS spoofing caused the collisions or b) the Russians were in any way involved.

[UCANSEE2]

PING !!!

[minnesota_bound]

Maybe use one of these Sextant now and then.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumbhttp://tinyurl.com/ybvy4s9r