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Former NSA Tech Director Bill Binney Outlines DNC Emails Were a Leak, Not a Russian Hack (VIDEO)
Conservative Treehouse ^ | August 14 2017 | Sundance

Posted on 08/15/2017 5:14:18 AM PDT by Whenifhow

Former NSA Technical Director Bill Binney outlines how the 2016 DNC emails were actually taken by a leaker using a portable storage device, and not taken by a computer hack initiated by the vast Russian enterprise.

Mr. Binney’s outline on Tucker Carlson mirrors a previous new discussion that was reported within The Nation –See Here– A generally far-left media outlet.

The reality that it was an internal leak further advances the possibility that DNC employee Seth Rich was actually the person who took the DNC email data after becoming disenfranchised by the DNC intentionally undermining Bernie Sanders and aiding candidate Hillary Clinton. Seth Rich was murdered under rather unusual circumstances in 2016, shortly after WikiLeaks began releasing and publishing the emails.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dnc; hacking; leak; nsa; russia; sethrich; sundance
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5:38 Minutes

Ex-NSA official: Spies don't believe Russia collusion story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA0HK_I-Hps

1 posted on 08/15/2017 5:14:18 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: LucyT; Liz; All

5:38 Minutes
Ex-NSA official: Spies don’t believe Russia collusion story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA0HK_I-Hps

Former NSA Technical Dir: Dems’ Russia Hacking Story Likely Bogus

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/14/russian-hacking-2016-election-nsa-member-says-trump-story-false

He said that during a prior Chinese hack of government systems, NSA agents were able to use “trace route programs” to track the “packets” of information back to a specific building in Shanghai.
Binney said that could be the reason Democrats did not want the FBI to look at their systems- ostensibly because they may not trace back to Russia.
He said a major file that was allegedly hacked from the DNC server was 1,976 megabytes in size and was transmitted in only 87 seconds.
“You made the point that it was moved too fast [that it] couldn’t have gone out over the internet,” Tucker Carlson surmised.
Binney said it likely was instead transmitted to a storage device.


2 posted on 08/15/2017 5:16:37 AM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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To: Whenifhow

Whoever took the DNC emails...had the admin password, sat within a couple feet of the server, and was some insider to the organization.

The DNC likes the Russian hack story but it’s all fake. It won’t work with the 87-second transmittal time.


3 posted on 08/15/2017 5:23:14 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Whenifhow

Wait, wasn’t James Clapper head of the NSA?

And he never stepped forward to say there was no hack from the outside, thus allowing this charade to go on now for a year...


4 posted on 08/15/2017 5:23:22 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (You for avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: pepsionice

The DNC likes the Russian hack story because if it was Seth Rich who downloaded the data they are connected in some manner to his unsolved murder.


5 posted on 08/15/2017 5:24:25 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (You for avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: Whenifhow

Here’s some more pretty interesting (and discouraging) info from Binney:

http://www.csoonline.com/article/3213033/security/nsa-whistleblower-william-binney-presented-how-the-nsa-tracks-you-at-sha2017.html


6 posted on 08/15/2017 5:25:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: pepsionice

Thus, the reason why DNC and DWS wouldn’t allow inspection of their servers and laptops.
They knew, now they need to be investigated for Collusion and False allegations.


7 posted on 08/15/2017 5:32:21 AM PDT by Wizski (Often wrong, plan accordingly...)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I’ve come to view the Seth angle to this as (1) Seth was the downloader guy, or (2) Seth figured out the downloader guy. It would be curious to know anyone tried to break into Seth’s apartment the hours after the murder.


8 posted on 08/15/2017 5:34:33 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Whenifhow
He said a major file that was allegedly hacked from the DNC server was 1,976 megabytes in size and was transmitted in only 87 seconds.

If the DNC still has the server, how does anyone know how long it took to download the file?

9 posted on 08/15/2017 5:44:10 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Whenifhow

Posted at The Last Refuge:

1) Mueller’s Russia investigation so far has ONE “FACT” which is publicly known: that Russia hacked the DNC. The hack is the essential aspect of the Russia interference issue.

2) Therefore, Mueller CANNOT logically evade investigating the “hack”.

3) The article cited by Sundance makes it crystal clear that Mueller can find out immediately whether the Russians hacked the DNC by asking the NSA, which has all the information necessary to make that determination.

4) Mueller cannot drop the “hack” after he finds out it was not a hack or by Russia. When Mueller finds out, logically he will have to discover what it was if not a hack or Russian. The “hack” is too integral to the Russian investigation to not investigate.

5) Assuming the “hack” was a leak as described by the article, Mueller logically will look into any evidence regarding who downloaded (stole?) the information from the DNC server. Following the leak will be an entire investigation in itself.

6) Mueller will also necessarily examine the role of the company used by the DNC to falsely propagate the “hack” story, as well as the role of the FBI. Specifically, he will be interested in whether the “hack” story was a mistake or a fabrication, and who was involved in the propagation of the false Russian hack story.

7) Without going into speculation, it is not hard to imagine the actual circumstances of an investigation into the false Russian hack story: no peril for Trump, opening Pandora’s box for the Democrats.


10 posted on 08/15/2017 5:49:12 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: Whenifhow

Conservative Treehouse was all over the martin/zimmerman case. When they get on one of these, they ride the story hard and put it away wet. There is little question what happened once they’ve done a full dissection of the story.

My personal favorite site.


11 posted on 08/15/2017 6:05:39 AM PDT by robroys woman
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To: pepsionice
"The DNC likes the Russian hack story but it’s all fake. It won’t work with the 87-second transmittal time."

A story as big as Benghazi and that follows the same Alinsky template.

12 posted on 08/15/2017 6:05:48 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Whenifhow
Now that this has been known for a week, what is Mueller's probe for if it is not going after the conspiracy against Trump with this Russia collusion crap?

Mueller is not investigating Russian collusion if he is still after Trump.

13 posted on 08/15/2017 6:06:24 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Whenifhow
He said that during a prior Chinese hack of government systems, NSA agents were able to use “trace route programs” to track the “packets” of information back to a specific building in Shanghai.

Binney said that could be the reason Democrats did not want the FBI to look at their systems- ostensibly because they may not trace back to Russia.

And yet neither Sessions nor our supposedly Republican congress see this as a legal justification for a search warrant to get the DNC computers.

14 posted on 08/15/2017 6:10:16 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: Whenifhow

At this point the defense of anyone Mueller indites will demand the investigation of the DNC computers.


15 posted on 08/15/2017 6:10:41 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
-- Mueller is not investigating Russian collusion if he is still after Trump. --

The only targets in Mueller's jurisdiction belong to the Trump campaign.

Would you trust Mueller to undercut the justification for the existence of his assignment? Would you trust Mueller to investigate the ODNI claim, if he was head of FBI instead of having a small jurisdiction?

He's a political hack, and he'd bury any wrongs by the DEM party.

16 posted on 08/15/2017 6:12:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Re: #10

Can only work if Mueller weren’t a Partisan.


17 posted on 08/15/2017 6:13:11 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Lady Heron

“...the defense of anyone Mueller ‘indicts’ will demand the investigation of the DNC computers...”

Very interesting and excellent comment.

For months now it has been very clear that the fact that the DNC servers were never investigated is the key to getting this this whole witch hunt dropped.

I hope that President Trump’s lawyers are on this because it is imperative that the servers are examined and not by the deep state or the dirty intelligence community.


18 posted on 08/15/2017 6:20:57 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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....the reason why DNC and DWS wouldn’t allow inspection of their servers and laptops. They knew no Russian hacking could be found....... and now they need to be investigated for Collusion and False allegations....

D/W/S is little more than a conniving con artist. She colluded to give the calculated Obama cover for his devious schemes.

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Trace all of it back to Obama's (and Hillary's) paranoia---if 2016 Hillary lost, all of them would have big Big problems.

REFERENCE---Then-Pres Obama, and his minions, started developing the “Russian hacked the election” narrative to give them cover for their blatantly illegal spying on the Trump campaign.

BACKSTORY---Obama began spying on Trump a year earlier. Guess Obama couldn't tolerate Trump's raising the "birther" issue.

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FROM ONE OF THE MANY EXPOSES---Seeking to retain his position as CIA director under Hillary, Obama-era Brennan at the CIA used phony foreign intel as a pretext for a multi-agency investigation into Trump.

That manipulated the FBI into probing a computer server connected to Trump Tower.....and gave cover to Obama's tasking his stooge, Susan Rice, to sift through intel and unmask innocent Americans.

"Susan The Sifter" also had a dog in this hunt. Hillary tapped her for Secy of State. One could conclude Comey also had his reasons .....to stay on as a Hillary factotum. Mighty powerful incentives for anti-Trump shenanigans.

.......apparently there are records proving that Obama's CIA director, John Brennan, oversaw repeated spying on the phone calls of President Donald Trump and millions of other private American citizens. An audiotape just released by Federal Judge G. Murray Snow is part of a civil case........

CAUGHT W/ THEIR PANTS DOWN--Whomever tried the translation from English to Russian screwed-up several times....... and this is how they were outed.

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Also consider the conniving Obama’s final act.....
Jan. 12: Obama expands the NSA’s ability to share data with other agencies to make sure the access he craved is not interfered with, nor interrupted.

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This is the stuff of third-rate banana republics. Susan Rice, D/W/S, Brennan, Comey, Lynch, and all concerned, including BO, should be in prison right this minute. (hat tip Junk Silver)

19 posted on 08/15/2017 6:24:48 AM PDT by Liz (Four boxes to defend liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo; used in that order.)
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To: LucyT; GregNH; LS; 2ndDivisionVet; appalachian_dweller; aragorn; Arthur Wildfire! March; ASA Vet; ..

PING!!!

Article and comments, esp #10

Excerpt:
Mueller’s Russia investigation so far has ONE “FACT” which is publicly known: that Russia hacked the DNC. The hack is the essential aspect of the Russia interference issue.

Therefore, Mueller CANNOT logically evade investigating the “hack”.

Thanks, Gratia


20 posted on 08/15/2017 6:26:02 AM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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