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To: Mafe

This was decided in 1865, as I recall.


2 posted on 08/13/2017 9:39:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This was decided in 1865, as I recall.

Legislatively, judicially, or just by the fact that the Union won the war?
5 posted on 08/13/2017 9:44:27 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep.
We kill a bunch of them and take all their stuff.


15 posted on 08/13/2017 9:57:26 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"This was decided in 1865, as I recall."

This time, no one will go to war to force them to stay.

We might negotiate a divorce that give us the conservative areas, and maybe the Long Beach port.

26 posted on 08/14/2017 12:17:28 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (I told you so)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Secession is not unconstitutional.


32 posted on 08/14/2017 3:57:42 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This was decided in 1865, as I recall.

I'd say that what was decided was a state's unilateral decision to secede.

The author states:

"University of Virginia law school professor Cynthia Nicoletti told Business Insider, “There’s no legal path to secession.” Others point out that it would likely take a Constitutional Convention and ratification..."

I believe that there is a legal path that is far short of a proposing convention. It would be perfectly constitutional for Congress to pass a bill proposing an amendment to the Constitution that grants California's request to leave the Union. Then California would need 38 states to concur, and they're out.

I would not support Congress proposing a process of secession in a new amendment, as that would become an open door for all sorts of political havoc, with states feigning the secession process for simple legislative leverage. Instead, the precedent should be set that a state wishing to leave asks their delegation in Congress to propose an amendment requesting only that state's desire to leave, and then they lobby the remaining states in the union for concurrence.

-PJ

83 posted on 08/16/2017 12:11:00 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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