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To: rlmorel
"Until someone shows convincing evidence, I am assuming this person was afraid."

If they identify the drivers of the red minivan and the silver/black sedan that drove through the mob first (and the police must have the cars, since they were damaged so needed to be towed) and they say they were frightened by the mob, An Act of Terrorism is going to be very difficult to prove.

194 posted on 08/14/2017 5:16:28 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Gun buybacks are one of the most ineffectual public policies that have ever been invented")
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To: Sooth2222

True. Unless someone shouts out a Perry Mason-like confession of guilt, it is hard to prove.

In the incidents of muslim terrorism I see, I regard the “Allah Akbar” proclamation as a Perry Mason-like confession of guilt.

But otherwise, I despise hate crime legislation. Not because I support hate crime, but for two reasons: First, there are laws on the books against crimes that should be charged and enforced. Secondly, determining what is going on in someone’s mind at a given time is problematic.

Even if someone has expressed sympathy with radical views in some way, trying to link it to a given act is an assumption, not proven...unless they shout out “Allah Akbar” as they pull the trigger.


195 posted on 08/14/2017 5:25:15 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: Sooth2222
"If they identify the drivers of the red minivan and the silver/black sedan that drove through the mob first (and the police must have the cars, since they were damaged so needed to be towed)"

There is video on twitter of both the red minivan and the silver sedan immediately after the crash. The minivan shows damage to the driver's side second door absolutely consistent with being bashed in by Antifa.

The video also shows two women exiting the van through the passenger door, and also several Antifa types reaching in the driver's side window of the silver sedan, whose driver appears to be a young African-American woman.

200 posted on 08/14/2017 6:36:42 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Prosecute the win. Run up the score.)
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