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To: Ray76; Hojczyk; sarge83; Article10; bigbob; Mr. K; ZULU; Lurkinanloomin; be-baw; ...

Actually, every two -term + politician needs to be gone. The presumption is a career politician (anyone more than two terms in office) is corrupt (he puts the future of his own career ahead of America’s future). That means guys like Ryan are preemptively corrupt and should be thrown out on their keisters.

The presumption can only be rebutted by the politician himself producing clear and convincing evidence to the voters he is not corrupt. Other wise he should be gone. He is guilty until HE proves himself innocent. If they don’t like that then the shouldn’t run for office. They are our employees.

Without a term-limit constitutional amendment (long-term solution), this will be hard to do without giving the Lying Left a majority which we must not do. Somehow we’ve got to rid ourselves of corrupt GOP congressmen without giving the Lying Left the baton. Not sure how to do that.


127 posted on 08/12/2017 8:58:29 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

In theory term limits seem like a good idea. But never underestimate the depths of evil creativity that flourishes among the political class.

If term limits became law, I suspect their reaction would be to form groups of like-minded politicians who they would fund, and circulate in and out, rotating the candidates who would all comply with their common agenda.


129 posted on 08/12/2017 9:13:14 AM PDT by Kalamata (With haste and GodÂ’s divine intervention, may Liberty be restored to the People.)
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To: Jim 0216

This is a revolution. In such times, is a do-nothing course of action appropriate?

Or is it perhaps better to remain idealogically pure in one’s state of “do-nothingness” and not clean up what needs cleaning up.


135 posted on 08/12/2017 9:53:54 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: Jim 0216
I would like to see the Lobbiest system abolished. It should be a crime punishable by life in prison for any congressman or other politician to be caught taking bribes, gratuities, granting favors that give advantage or even talking to industry reps seeking favors ( they do not get caught but do it as a matter of course)

the constituents that the politicians protect and coddle have become industry: big box racketeers, Big Pharma, wholesale insurance brokers,usery money lenders, entertainment/communication monopolies,..... and not the people they are supposed to represent, which makes our politicians our enemy, not our representatives.

165 posted on 08/12/2017 2:50:15 PM PDT by KTM rider
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To: Jim 0216

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Actually, every two -term + politician needs to be gone. The presumption is a career politician (anyone more than two terms in office) is corrupt (he puts the future of his own career ahead of America’s future). That means guys like Ryan are preemptively corrupt and should be thrown out on their keisters.
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Concur, it’s a given. Graft, corruption, greed and more have ALWAYS been the hallmark of govt.

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The presumption can only be rebutted by the politician himself producing clear and convincing evidence to the voters he is not corrupt. Other wise he should be gone. He is guilty until HE proves himself innocent. If they don’t like that then the shouldn’t run for office. They are our employees.
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Were we again a Constitutional Republic, it would be quite hard to ‘show’ such proof: Fedzilla has such a LIMITED scope. “Here’s a bill I voted NO”?? Just look at the dog/pony-show votes we just had, count enough votes for the desired outcome, then allow the rest to ‘vote their conscience’ (aka fool the voters).

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Without a term-limit constitutional amendment (long-term solution), this will be hard to do without giving the Lying Left a majority which we must not do. Somehow we’ve got to rid ourselves of corrupt GOP congressmen without giving the Lying Left the baton. Not sure how to do that.
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Sorry, here I can find no difference between the two (again, noting their are MORE than 2 options on every ballot). One only wishes to go 50MPH vs. the other at 80MPH. Each believes their own form of Fascism/Socialism is ‘good’ and manageable (IE: they can pilfer the public Treasury to line their own pockets).

Like O’Care, IMO, the People should get EXACTLY what they need: A swift kick in the cojones. Bend over, People, for the govt you DESERVE.

THEN, and maybe only then, might they wake up. Unfort., I still don’t see it happening even then.


209 posted on 08/15/2017 3:33:34 PM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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