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To: ForYourChildren

Amusing. The Turks aren’t capable tying their shoelaces against the Kurds, much less the Bundeswehr.

I would suspect the US Army, Europe would be a big help too.


9 posted on 08/04/2017 5:18:53 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

I believe it has been over 70 years since the German Army fought a conventional land battle. Given that I’d wouldn’t automatically rate them above the Turks.


18 posted on 08/04/2017 5:31:28 PM PDT by lodi90
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My serious and sober question: What leads you to believe that the Bundeswehr, (”...As of 28 February 2017, the German Army had a strength of 60,431 soldiers.) would be capable of successfully repelling a concerted military attack without US assistance.

Over the past decade we’ve had news of chronic munitions shortages for training, disdain for the military by the citizens, and now the effects of the Merkle/Juncker regime. Putting aside war game performance, emphasis on the gaming part, IIRC, the only Bundeswehr units deployed have been the tiny NBC Fuchs unit in Afghanistan. The sheer number of miltary age male “refugees” exceeds 10 divisions, not an insignificant already present guerilla force widely distributed throughout Germany by Merkles edicts.

Police units have been effectively told to stand down against Islamist aggression and intend to defend it against citizens complaints. Much the same position, but more aggressive, as NYC mayor Dinkins’ NYPD, which took down complaints and then, as directed, proceeded to inform complaintants about the difficulty in locating suspects, the time necessary to file the official complaint, days lost in court, low odds of conviction, etc.

There doesn’t seem to be hard evidence of German capability or will to fight against invaders. Erdogan’s intelligence units in NATO forces, and undeclared agents in their Forign Service must have presented such a view for his regime to make this boast.

Don’t think that it would be a total cakewalk for the Turks, much could happen in the passage through the Balkans and Austria, but time lost in squabbling over Article Five in Brussels, it might be revealed that Germany does not have the allies they think they have.


51 posted on 08/05/2017 2:24:24 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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US Army Europe is a skeleton force with one combat brigade at Grafenwoehr, near Nuremburg and the headquarters at Wiesbaden. US Air Force Europe is down to one air base at Ramstein.


62 posted on 08/05/2017 7:11:23 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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