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Average Americans Can No Longer Afford Average New Cars
Gas 2 ^ | 17 July 2017 | Steve Hanley

Posted on 07/21/2017 9:06:34 AM PDT by Lorianne

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To: dragnet2

Just wait and wait some more. Given that my car has needed nothing but routine maintenance since I bought it used 10 years ago I have not recently experienced a repair bill. So it may be awhile before I weigh in on auto repairs. Oops, that tips my hand on the affordability of new cars doesn’t it?

Might also explain why my orginal post in this thread talked about the affordability of safe and reliable cars being cheap.


221 posted on 07/23/2017 1:49:44 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

For the 5th time, how is it food got so cheap cheap, according to you, yet most everything else has gone way up? Lets see if you can answer this without evading the question for the 6th time.


222 posted on 07/23/2017 1:52:02 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Btw, on top of your assertion that food is, “Cheap cheap”, do ya think auto repairs nowadays are cheap cheap too?


223 posted on 07/23/2017 1:53:38 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

A young person starting out might not be able to afford a car. But unless they are total failures in life, they will be able to afford “average cars”. Commuter cars. Cars normal people buy when they need a car.

Not land yachts. Not expensive sports cars. Average vehicles.

And the problem with the article is that is assumes the average cost of a car sold is an “average vehicle”. If people want to buy more expensive cars, with more options, and have the money to do so, that is fine. It drives up the “average price”. So what?

But what the article is describing is people with penis envy applied to cars - they want the top of the line cars. So they go into debt. And I don’t care.

A Toyota Camry is a nicer vehicle, at 23K, than most cars available 20 years ago. Vastly more reliable and with far more features than an average car of the 80s. If it is now a “below average” vehicle, it is because people want cars that have little to do with getting from A to B while seating 2 adults and 2 kids in reasonable comfort and with outstanding reliability.

And if they do, and go deeply into debt to get them, so what?

Unless someone is a failure, they can afford a good new car by their 30s. Like always.


224 posted on 07/23/2017 1:59:59 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: dragnet2

As you said you do not get to answer a question with a question. So let’s start by having you answer the first question asked which was mine. Then after you answer my question I will answer your question.


225 posted on 07/23/2017 2:01:00 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Mr Rogers

Once again, the article is referring to “Average Americans” not young persons..Try to keep up.


226 posted on 07/23/2017 2:02:37 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Anyone can read back. You’ve done nothing but evade my questions from the beginning..

For the 6th time, how is it food got so cheap cheap, according to you, yet most everything else has gone way up? Lets see if you can answer this without evading the question for the 7th time.


227 posted on 07/23/2017 2:04:09 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Do you agree with what was said about Trump? Help me out with some critical thinking skills. When some one starts an article with such a politically snide and offensive remark I am doubtful of their veracity in the rest of the article. Maybe that is not critical thinking skillfully exercised.

The article is rubbish. From its premise to its conclusions.


228 posted on 07/23/2017 2:09:28 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: dragnet2

Are cars and homes not the the most expensive purchases for most people?


college education...


229 posted on 07/23/2017 2:11:34 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Do you agree with what was said about Trump?

Can you at least provide a quote from the article so I can see what your burning question is?

230 posted on 07/23/2017 2:13:54 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

How do you wish to proceed? Either we can answer questions with questions or not. I will follow your lead. Should I just ignore all of your previous posts so that I do not “read back” while you remind me that you have asked for the “7th” time? So you can read back and answer questions with questions but I am to not read back and answer your questions?

Still waiting to here if you agree with the article re. Trump.


231 posted on 07/23/2017 2:19:18 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Do you agree with what was said about Trump?

I don't see word about Trump in the article.

Can you at least provide a quote from the article so I can see what your burning question is? ???

232 posted on 07/23/2017 2:20:02 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Still waiting to here if you agree with the article re. Trump.

For the 3rd time, could you extend a bit of courtesy and post the comment about Trump from the article so I can answer it?

That might help.☺

233 posted on 07/23/2017 2:26:25 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Do you agree with what was said about Trump?

Look, I'm trying here. You've asked me this over and over. Again, I don't see a comment about Trump in the article.

And since you refuse to quote it so I can address it, maybe someone from the audience can quote it for you!


234 posted on 07/23/2017 2:32:44 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Read back. I provided a small quotation already. Or you can read the very first line of the article for, I am guessing, the first time. The article is garbage. It’s nothing but a version,and illogical and confusing one at that, on the rich get rich and the poor get poorer theme. Or in this case the rich get richer and the poor (or just the average) cannot afford a new car.

I cannot afford a new car and I make above average income. I have a house but it is less than most people’s rent because of where I choose to live and the type house it is. I was raised on soup beans and cornbread and haven’t progressed far from that.

I won’t answer your questions because the article starts with a flawed and unacceptable premise as do most liberal/prog arguments do.

So yeah, think it is all affordable and I hope the rich do get richer.


235 posted on 07/23/2017 2:32:52 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: dragnet2

The second line:
“While the rich get richer (and will get richer still if the #FakePresident has his way)...”
That is a reference to Trump.


236 posted on 07/23/2017 2:35:22 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Lorianne
I only bought a new car once in my life, when I was 27. I only own old vehicles now, but several are very tasty.

If you're smart enough to get into college, you should be smart enough to learn how to wrench.

237 posted on 07/23/2017 2:39:02 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

This was your burning question? Good grief! Everyone blames everything else for political reasons. Bottom line after 16 years of Bush and Obama, it’s no wonder average Americans can’t afford new cars. And the rich get rich do get richer which is certainly no secret.

Now are you going to answer my questions?


238 posted on 07/23/2017 2:42:27 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: FreedomNotSafety

How is it food got so cheap cheap, according to you, yet most everything else has gone way up? Lets see if you can answer this without evading the question for the 8th time.


239 posted on 07/23/2017 2:45:01 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: FreedomNotSafety
The article is garbage.

Ok, so you must be suggesting or implying average Americans have no problem purchasing new cars because they're so reasonably priced? Right?

240 posted on 07/23/2017 2:51:14 PM PDT by dragnet2
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