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1 posted on 07/15/2017 9:44:01 PM PDT by Helicondelta
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I am amazed that these people can say these things with a straight face. If Chelsea Clinton had met with... well... ANYONE who offered dirt on Trump, there would be no talk at all of treason, or colluding, or anything. There’d be nothing. Nothing but mourning that the source didn’t come through.


35 posted on 07/15/2017 10:28:57 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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The New York Slimes and their ilk “created” this world with their continual lies, propaganda and Dim party cheerleading. The dinosaur media has zero credibility.


36 posted on 07/15/2017 10:29:18 PM PDT by karnage
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I heard 2 instances today, where the persons on Fox laughed at the Russia thing the media’s been talking about on tv.. they joked and laughed, making it simple and not worthy of serious thought... it sounded like something the media would give a second thought on, when their pet subject is being considered laughable... joking... it might stop them..
Gorka said President Trump and those working for him, do not talk about the russia fiasco.. they are going about their business as if russia is not in their world. I think we all should also... and conservatives on Fox, talk about something else... not russia... just laugh about it as if it IS a joke... and joke it out of existence.


38 posted on 07/15/2017 10:31:16 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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In all the Fake News reports about the Donald Trump Jr. meeting one fact is ignored.

Isn’t it a good thing if factual information about a candidate’s wrongdoing is made public?

They think it is just great that they have gathered soem factual information about the Trump family.

So why is it a bad thing that Trump Jr. was seeking to gather factual information about Hillary?

If he had actually found out some information about her underhanded dealings and made it public he would have been doing the country a service.

That said, this entire situation with the Trump Jr. meeting stinks.

It sure seems like a sucker scam to put him in a situation that could be spun to sound underhanded.

He was baited with an offer of information about Hillary that didn’t exist and the people involved have connections to the Obama administration and other democrat.


40 posted on 07/15/2017 10:53:31 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool !)
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Hey, Mr. Green. Why don’t you spend some ink on that MSNBC breaking scandal of a few weeks ago? You might recall that they had video evidence that the President ordered two scoops of ice cream on his pie for dessert, while his guests only got one. If that doesn’t tick off the Trumpsters, NOTHING WILL.


42 posted on 07/15/2017 11:08:02 PM PDT by DeFault User
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I think the communist media is trying to convince Americans that Russia is still the enemy. It isn’t. Most Americans now realize that Christian Russia is going to be a crucial ally in the war to preserve our civilization. Socialist Western Europe is probably already too far gone, so we need to pull away. We also need to clean up the rot in our country. The leftist establishment — the media, unions, the secular universities, Hollywood, the Deep State, the Democrat Party, the ACLU, etc. —must be dealt with.

Putin is not a nice guy, but he’s on our side in this war. The liberal media and the rest of the godless communist movement is not.


43 posted on 07/15/2017 11:10:54 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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The MSM is still trying to figure out how to report on Trump Jr. wanting dirt on Clinton without revealing what the dirt on Clinton actually is.

They are walking a fine line trying to indict Trump Jr. without also incriminating Clinton in the process.

-PJ

44 posted on 07/15/2017 11:11:31 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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The leftist anti-American propaganda media put a known marxist muslim America-hating faggot illegal alien in charge of the executive branch for 8 years.

The biggest terror attack in history.

If we had justice in this country, these propagandists would be hanging from lamp posts...Appian way like.


47 posted on 07/15/2017 11:40:02 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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Translation: We’re winning, they’re losing.


48 posted on 07/15/2017 11:50:07 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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“Here was proof that members of Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign had, at the very least, been eager to collude with Russia to influence the 2016 election.”

ok, if meeting Russians to get dirt on your political opponent is some great crime, how about the “Pee dossier” ?


49 posted on 07/16/2017 12:08:37 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (Everything you need to know about leftists can be learned from the Nazi-Soviet Pact.)
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Two parts to this: first, that they really don't think there's anything wrong with "collusion" with Russia, they are simply disappointed that we don't. They think this is 1964 and we're all in the John Birch Society and that the mere breath of suspicion of a Russian connection should be enough to undermine Trump, and - mirabile dictu! - it isn't working, because:

Second, that we're simply too stupid to appreciate the gems of editorial virtuosity they're laying before our ungrateful eyes. They're too good for us, really, they are.

That smell is panic. After all this time they're finally realizing what happens when their credibility is shot. Nothing happens. And it's killing them.

50 posted on 07/16/2017 12:19:00 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Uhm, let’s see. Which news operation is laying off employees because they’re broke. Is it Fox news , . . . or the New York Times?


51 posted on 07/16/2017 1:02:58 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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It’s water under the bridge now for the media. But perhaps if they HAD NOT set out to destroy Trump from the moment he won the election (obviously they had to try to destroy him prior), but instead tried to report fairly, and not make total asses of themselves - such as reporting on how many scoops of ice cream he gives out...not to mention the constant hit pieces...

...if they had done that. Simply reported, ignored the tweets that were silly, such as his inauguration crowd size...his teasing of the media...just ignored them, while also reporting objectively. Verifying reports BEFORE they go live, as the media used to do, etc.

Then, maybe, if they really did think they’d have a smoking gun, they just might have found Trump’s supporters a bit more open-minded to hear them out.

But at this point, all that we know is that the media WANTS TRUMP OUT, and everything they do, no matter how corrupt, is to that effect. And we simply are not going to give a crap about what they accuse Trump or his people of...since we have absolutely no reason to consider them credible..


52 posted on 07/16/2017 1:12:04 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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bfl


59 posted on 07/16/2017 2:22:45 AM PDT by Drew68
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There's a NYC talk radio host who is generally liberal but has known Donald Trump for a long time and has been a staunch defender of his.

One of the things he's been saying for months is that the flood of fake news and contrived outrage over Trump will make it impossible for people to know what's true and what's not -- so they'll just tune out these media outlets completely.

60 posted on 07/16/2017 2:56:54 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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Look to the right now and you’re apt to find an alternative reality in which the same set of facts is rearranged to compose an entirely different narrative.

In other words, the Left-wing media has lost their monopoly on the news. Hurray!

63 posted on 07/16/2017 3:21:44 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Collusion is what Hillary and the DNC did against Bernie. That should be the new mantra.


65 posted on 07/16/2017 4:22:51 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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The NYT does not mention that they have been caught lying. What about 17 Intel agencied? And they are lying for the DNC.

The bias is very visible, deceitful and destructive and people are sick of it.


66 posted on 07/16/2017 4:49:22 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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This is a typical insulting editorial from elite liberal media with disparaging, simplistic lines such as: “If you’re not a Republican, watching Republicans react to the news can feel a bit like witnessing a mass hallucination.” We’re not having hallucinations; we just have a different point of view about this kind of news.

Here’s some reaction to this news from a Republican and staunch Trump supporter in a solid-red state in the West, which may surprise the liberals in elite eastern media:
Firstly, all political campaigns are continuously collecting information on their opponents and monitoring statements and actions by opponents. Campaign managers have to know everything they can know about their opponents, not just so they can use information against their opponents but also to know the characteristics and behavior of their opponents, so that they know the kind of behavior to expect from their opponents during the campaign. Campaign managers also need to know about negative information about opponents that’s out there in the world and may be released by someone later in the campaign. This kind of knowledge enables them to prepare for the release of this information, so that they know how to react if a negative story is released about their opponents. It gives them time to determine in advance if the story is true or false and whether they should comment on a negative story. Trump’s campaign was simply gathering intelligence about his opponent, just as his opponent’s campaign was constantly gathering intelligence about Trump throughout the entire campaign.

Secondly, it doesn’t really matter much if a campaign official meets with someone from a foreign country or with an American citizen, because of course the American could be working for people in another country. Washington is crawling with foreign agents and Americans who are influenced by foreign agents. There’s no way to know who is working for whom and what their motives are. Campaign staffs just go out and gather all the information they can from everyone and then evaluate that information for credibility later. It’s ridiculously naive to think that Democrat campaign staffers don’t also collect all the information they can get from everyone.

Breitbart news isn’t in a alternative universe. They simply have a different point of view and a different perspective and background than people have in elite eastern media. From my point of view and given my background in business, I view people in elite eastern media as hopelessly lacking in useful knowledge about business, finance, economics, science, national security, and several other subjects. The continued irrational support by elite media people for US participation in the Paris Climate agreement is a classic example of how elite medial people know almost nothing about business, economics, and science and have no interest in educating themselves on these subjects. Anyone who has a strong understanding of these subjects couldn’t possibly support US participation in the Paris agreement, which would have been disastrous for the American economy while having no significant impact on climate.

So I couldn’t care less if the Trump campaign had a meeting with a Russian lawyer during their routine gathering of intelligence about their opponent. I’m not suffering from any hallucinations. I just view this incident as totally insignificant, and I strongly support Trump so that we can continue to put strong conservative judges on the Supreme Court and into the federal court system, and so that we can continue rebuilding our economy and begin to reduce America’s national debt to GDP ratio. Trump’s predecessor was an unmitigated economic disaster, and we now have a chance to repair the damage inflicted on America by the previous administration, which was viewed as completely unqualified to run our government by most people in the business world.

Trump and his administration are going to do a great job at rebuilding our economy, and he will be reelected in an even bigger electoral landslide against any democrat opponent in 2020.


72 posted on 07/16/2017 5:23:27 AM PDT by socialism_stinX (Not only does socialism stink, but when given enough time it wrecks any national economy.)
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This is the same kind of disconnect that exists with the globalist climate warming clan. Who in the world knows how to sort through the facts and derive an opinion on so important a matter? Doing so uncovers enough that the only opinion can be skepticism. Regardless, they demand faith in their agenda instead. It is the same thing with a lot of the "science" regarding origins, and that for many decades now.
73 posted on 07/16/2017 5:26:06 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (It's Morning in America)
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