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Our Civilization Deserves to Fail
Townhall.com ^ | July 15, 2017 | John Hawkins

Posted on 07/15/2017 5:03:35 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 07/15/2017 5:03:35 AM PDT by Kaslin
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We’re the trust fund kid living off the money great, great-grandad left us while the family business we don’t understand fails.

I think we're more like the kid who has blown all great-great-granddad's money, and more, but we're still able to get credit because word hasn't gotten around that we'll never be able to pay.

2 posted on 07/15/2017 5:11:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I know what I'm about.)
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This country is in serious need of a purging. The only question is who is going to do the purging and who and what will emerge after the conflagration.


3 posted on 07/15/2017 5:13:31 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Kaslin

Pretty hard to argue against this essay.


4 posted on 07/15/2017 5:14:23 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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Congress has abdicated its job... or rather.. congress has refused to represent the foundations of this country. Instead p, they want to give insurers 70bBillion taxpayer dollars as a bailout. I heard it was a total of 280 Billion in “stabilization funds”. We are entering second decade of presidential rule by edict or writ.. something wholly UN- American.


5 posted on 07/15/2017 5:17:33 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: ought-six

My civilization doesn’t deserve to fail. Is his the same as mine? Maybe he needs a spine an an attitude adjustment.


6 posted on 07/15/2017 5:21:00 AM PDT by Stentor
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“The only question is who is going to do the purging “......

If the liberal “obstructionists” were out of the way, perhaps Pres. Trump could get a good start on draining the swamp that is so badly needed. Problem is even those who are supposed to be on his political side are fighting him tooth and nail which I believe, is because they too are part of the swamp dwellers.


7 posted on 07/15/2017 5:21:58 AM PDT by DaveA37
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We haven’t had even 65% eligible voter turnout for a national election for 100+ years, yet the state is involved in our lives more than ever.

Freegards


8 posted on 07/15/2017 5:22:27 AM PDT by Ransomed
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We weren’t able to deal with less than 4,000 deaths in Iraq .

Whatever point this guy was making, he lost me right there. Our leadership - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and their neocon "underlings" - did not have a strategy for Iraq. Destroying Sadam's army and hanging him is not a a strategy.

I for one am not willing to licence even one American combat death to naifs, idiots and fools.

Kill a bunch of people and good things will happen is not a strategy.

And by the way, another person who has been saying the same thing is Mattis.

9 posted on 07/15/2017 5:22:54 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Mark Steyn "America Alone".

Not just this country but western civilization is in serious decline and probably already too late of a decline for it to be saved.

10 posted on 07/15/2017 5:25:39 AM PDT by MarMema
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I suspect our lethargy is due to our never having faced any real collective adversity. Generations before us fought the Revolution, they fought the Civil War, they drove across the Plains and tamed that wilderness, they battled the Bosch and the Hun.

The Boomer generation had Vietnam, but a lot of them escaped that too. And their children inherited a world without the Soviets, without the "Red Menace" or the "Yellow Peril," without the goose-steppers or the Dust Bowl or the Great Depression. They've been handed a safe, secure, comfortable world and they think it was free.

They haven't seen the bills paid in blood. And they haven't shed any of their own. So where there is no natural adversity, they create it by manufacturing petty grievances like unisex bathrooms and faux racism and environmental obstructionism.

They're rebels in search of a cause and in search of something to give their lives meaning.

11 posted on 07/15/2017 5:36:53 AM PDT by IronJack
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Kill a bunch of people and good things will happen is not a strategy.

Depends on who they are.

12 posted on 07/15/2017 5:36:59 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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The only thing necessary to correct the ship of state is to prosecute corruption as an existential threat to the republic. The levels of abuse reached under the previous regime - including using the IC apparatus against a political adversary during a presidential election - needs to be treated as treason. The coordinated after effects should be viewed as an attempt spread distrust in the electoral process and are in effect and unlawful coup.

Unless Trump destroys the very foundation of the uni-party, it will simply re-appear at some future point. To fully eradicate the threat, the country will have to undergo a type of 'De-Nazification' process. That is why Trump will ultimately be faced with the decision on whether to conduct a military tribunal similar to the Nuremberg trials.

If the criminals are not held to account, if all the dirty laundry is not aired, if resolution is not reached, then these threats to peace & security will not only be destroyed, but will re-appear stronger than before. I find it hard to believe that anyone - including Trump - who fully understands the issues at hand can seemingly wave away what has occurred as merely some heated political disagreement.

We need to be clear that this was/is an unlawful use of state power to quash/alter political freedom & choice.

13 posted on 07/15/2017 5:41:00 AM PDT by semantic
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The author makes some good points, but he uses some terrible examples ...

Today, Americans would rather sit out a war, no matter how important, rather than see our soldiers die as they did during WWI. We weren’t able to deal with less than 4,000 deaths in Iraq while we lost more than 13 times that number in WWI. Our industrial production was the decisive factor in the Allied Victory in WWII.

Actually, I suspect most Americans recognize the idiocy of sacrificing even one soldier's life -- let alone 4,000 -- toppling a government in the Middle East and establishing a new one -- in which Islam is enshrined as the official state religion.

And remember that our government does this sort of sh!t while at the same time it allows a massive invasion across our own southern border.

I don't see this as people losing courage or conviction over time. I see this as people wising up to the fact that their own government -- not some monarch or dictator in Europe -- is the biggest threat to their life and liberty that they'll ever face.

14 posted on 07/15/2017 5:41:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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Rep. Chellie Pingree (D-Maine)

Ughhh....RAT-filth. Get the bitch a burka.

15 posted on 07/15/2017 5:43:08 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)
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Depends on who they are.

Not really. We got Al Qaeda and ISIS that way.

16 posted on 07/15/2017 5:43:48 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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And our so called NATO Allies are even worse off


17 posted on 07/15/2017 5:44:29 AM PDT by uncbob
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As America’s problems have gotten bigger and more intractable, our politicians have created phony problems to solve instead of dealing with real issues.

Because they are incapable of dealing with any real issues. Worst political class ever.

Look at the health care mare's nest. The government created it and now they are incapable of solving the mess they created. I was in the doctor's office on Thursday and of course CNN was on the monitor. Lind-seed Graham was spouting off about health care. I thought 'how does this pipsqueak senator from South Carolina have a voice in what I choose for health care and how much I pay?'. Tar and feathers and rails came to mind....

18 posted on 07/15/2017 5:46:19 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: MarMema
Not just this country but western civilization is in serious decline and probably already too late of a decline for it to be saved.

I believe remnants will survive. Otherwise the world is facing a dark ages of 1000 years.

19 posted on 07/15/2017 5:48:19 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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The American people are a victim of the successes of our past citizens. There are no great pandemics. No problems of any note, not poverty or drugs or crime. While it is true these are all “problems” they don’t make the large mass of citizens feel personally threatened so that mass would take collective action; like after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

The two biggest potential disasters facing the public are liberals and Muslims; neither of which has triggered a fight or flight response. Even if there was something to draw the public together in what could be called One Public Opinion, the talking heads in the Media would be on the other side. “If we destroy the planet killing asteroid, think how badly it would feel!” (Those type people.)

In America the “poor” probably average fifty pounds overweight. The rich donate to the Democrats. The colleges have safe spaces for snowflakes “triggered” by seeing a bad color or hearing a “cisgender” joke.

The closest we have come to survival type thinking is with President Trump. And, literally hundreds of people are so “triggered” by him I fear for his safety.

The world has gone crazy and “we” are doing nothing to bring it back from the brink.


20 posted on 07/15/2017 5:50:24 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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