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No need for a full border wall, Trump says
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 13 2017 | David Lauter and Melissa Etehad

Posted on 07/13/2017 11:05:13 PM PDT by iowamark

President Trump, who made the building of a wall along the border with Mexico a central promise of his campaign, significantly scaled back the pledge Thursday.

"You don't need 2,000 miles of wall because you have a lot of natural barriers," Trump said to reporters on Air Force One during his flight to Paris.

"You have mountains. You have some rivers that are violent and vicious. You have some areas that are so far away that you don't really have people crossing. So you don't need that."

"You'll need anywhere from 700 to 900 miles," he said.

About 600 miles of the southern border already are protected by walls, fences or other barriers. It was not clear from Trump's remarks if the figure he cited referred to new border protections or included those already in existence, but he appeared to suggest that fixing current border fences would count against the total he had in mind...

Conservative groups that had supported Trump’s tough stance on immigration during the campaign expressed concern that the president was changing course.

“It appears things are being walked back on and there are various narratives going around in the White House,” said Stephen Steinlight, a senior policy analyst at the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington.

“We don’t have the rule of law when it comes to immigration,” he said. “It doesn’t exist. There’s immigration anarchy.”

Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for Federation for American Immigration Reform in Washington, said Trump’s backsliding on the wall casts doubt on whether he will keep his other campaign promises on immigration...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bordersecurity; borderwall; buildthewall; donaldjtrump; immigration; trump
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To: iowamark

Clearly why Mike Pence has been prepping.


41 posted on 07/14/2017 6:17:20 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: eartick
#39: "He has been fighting Congress to fund"

I know, I know. If only the Republicans controlled the houses of congress just think what might be accomplished!

42 posted on 07/14/2017 6:21:42 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: iowamark

The media knows the key to permanent damage to trump is portraying him as lying to us.

The title here lacks context and is meant to anger people.


43 posted on 07/14/2017 6:25:30 AM PDT by dforest
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To: iowamark

The GOPe wants President Trump to fail.
It will be a surprise if he gets the money to build a border wall.


44 posted on 07/14/2017 6:27:11 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpers before Trumpin' was cool !)
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To: eartick

Sorry I didn’t explain it more fully...just wanted to drop in a comment.

My point is this: since Trump has acknowledged a 2000 mile wall is not necessarily what he means by “build a wall” because of natural barriers, etc., for the LA SLIMES to pretend this is new information is ridiculous.

This is just like a few weeks ago when it was announced 600 or so Carrier employees were going to be let go. The media and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) tried to make it like Trump’s job saving deal didn’t work out. But a careful examination of the deal when it was announced last year shows that those jobs were indeed going to go, but many more would be saved.

Fake news in this sense meant it was old news being recycled.


45 posted on 07/14/2017 6:59:01 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: FreedomStar3028

The level of legal immigration is way to high. We need to cut all immigration to the bone. I.e. to zero.


46 posted on 07/14/2017 7:00:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rrrod

Yeah, and 99% of imports don;t. So f yourself back.


47 posted on 07/14/2017 7:02:34 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative
"Where there is no wall is where they will go.

Wherever crossing access is safest for them is where they will go, wall or no wall.

"No matter how far out of they way that is where the dope smugglers and coyotes will cross."

And when those areas are identified, security will be improved. The idea of a "build it once and done all wall fix" will never hap by appropriate barriers. And it needs to happen in that order.

48 posted on 07/14/2017 7:30:14 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: iowamark

OK, wall the 700 miles and mine the rest.


49 posted on 07/14/2017 8:00:57 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: iowamark

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-says-his-wall-would-cost-8-billion

From 2/9/2016. For the record, everyone knows what a disingenuous lying slimeball you are and we know the games you and your friends play.


50 posted on 07/14/2017 8:18:39 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: FreedomStar3028
The ones that come here legally are great, and usually assimilate and love America.

Speak for yourself. Legal Muslim immigrants have generally been a disaster and haven't assimilated.

51 posted on 07/14/2017 8:22:00 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: zeestephen

“I recall Trump saying he would build a wall across the entire Mexican border.”

OK.

“Can someone give me the exact date when Trump first informed 2016 voters that he was not going to build a wall across the entire border?”

You first.


52 posted on 07/14/2017 8:34:36 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: tumblindice

LOL...every few weeks they throw headlines out like this thinking that those on board with Trump will get pissed off and jump ship. I never expected “The Great Wall of Trump” stretching from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific. Just common sense.


53 posted on 07/14/2017 8:43:29 AM PDT by wareagle7295
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To: iowamark

A a “steel wall” with “openings”? Sorry but that’s a fence, not a WALL.


54 posted on 07/14/2017 8:58:11 AM PDT by Lady4Liberty (The destruction of America starts with the destruction of the family. Support traditional marriage.)
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To: eartick

>>>Male Bovine Scat...prove it<<<

I’m not about to review every one of Trump’s Interviews and Rally Speeches during the Campaign. He has talked about Natural Boundaries many times.

If this is news to you, you haven’t been paying attention.

>>>He has been fighting Congress to fund his BORDER WALL not his piece of border wall<<<

Yes he has, but again with exceptions as to where a physical structure is not needed (in his opinion) and other security methods are deployed instead.

Please note, I’m not saying that I agree with him on this. I want a big beautiful Wall, the bigger and more beautiful the better. #;^)


55 posted on 07/14/2017 9:01:27 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: eartick

Nope.

It’s got to be a brand new 100 feet in a brand new location!

I’m really super cereal about this.

If he tears down an existing 100 feet and replaces it, I’m counting it as zero, I will be pissed, and I’m holding the GOP accountable for it. Not him, but them.

But on the serious side, I am getting pissed. Stop talking about it. I don’t want to hear the wall will get built any more. Not even once.

Start building it. Now. Do some damage. Quit playing defense.

They aren’t going to give you one damned second, so go to war against them.

They do not want your wall, so give them the biggest ***damned wall they ever saw.


56 posted on 07/14/2017 9:19:18 AM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: iowamark; All
Thank you for referencing that article iowamark. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

”… significantly scaled back the pledge [??? emphasis added] Thursday."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Trump had clarified on the campaign trail, long before he was elected, that the wall would take advantage of natural borders.

"I'm taking price per square foot and price per square, you know, per mile, and it's a very simple calculation," Trump said, noting that he would need to erect about 1,000 miles of border wall along the 2,000-mile long border because of natural barriers along certain parts [emphasis added]." — Trump: Border wall will cost $8 billion February 9, 2016.

57 posted on 07/14/2017 11:08:31 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: tumblindice

Re: “You first.”

I have no idea what that means.

As far as I know, Trump campaigned all the way to election day on the promise to build a wall across the entire Mexican border.

Now, multiple Comments on this thread claim that Trump retracted that promise before election day.

If you, or anyone else, can verify Trump’s pre-election retraction, I would like to read it.


58 posted on 07/14/2017 1:15:39 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Kazan

We were talking about Mexicans.


59 posted on 07/14/2017 8:39:46 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: iowamark

Rivers don’t stop people from trying to cross the border, and neither do mountains or hills, which is why a wall is necessary.


60 posted on 07/19/2017 11:14:23 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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