Liberals will NOT engage in a frank discussion of anything based on presentation of the facts. The factual truth scares them to death because they only know how to argue based on some emotional element of the discussion. Having five educated people discuss anything in a non-emotional presentation of the facts is anathma to them. I used to argue economic policy with a liberal Sociology prof. I would get her boxed into a position where she had no choice but to agree, but then her response was almost always the same: “That may be, but I don’t believe it!” whereupon she would stomp out of my office. Liberals usually show up to a gunfight with a squirt gun.
I have a liberal Friend’ at work who claims to be tolerant and open minded. She alaways wants to discuss politics with me to prove how open minded she is. Every time I tell her a FACT that she doesn’t like she just shakes her head and says ‘no, that’s not true!” I ask her why it’s not true and give me an alternate fact and she just says “it’s not true’ and walks away.