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To: DiogenesLamp

That is MOT what that means. It is a simple statement of fact. You cannot point to one portion of the US constitution that gives any faction the right to disunion.

Slavery was appalling then as it is now. The only treason there was a war over it here in the US is becsuse democrat, elite, plantation, slave owners wanted one. They wanted it so bad that they chose to secede because Lincoln was elected. Before his inauguration they had already begun their traitorous actions


60 posted on 06/30/2017 12:18:13 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster
That is MOT what that means. It is a simple statement of fact. You cannot point to one portion of the US constitution that gives any faction the right to disunion.

According to the founders, God is the supreme law. The Declaration cites the Right to Independence as given by God. Therefore it does not matter at all what some man made document says about it, the right to have independence is a inherent natural right that does not have to be articulated on a piece of paper.

Slavery was appalling then as it is now. The only treason there was a war over it here in the US is becsuse democrat, elite, plantation, slave owners wanted one.

This is completely incorrect. What the South wanted was to keep most of the 238 million dollars of income produced by the slaves instead of letting New York siphon off 40% of their total revenues, with Washington D.C. also putting 50% tariffs on them as well.

The reason there was a war was because the Wealthy New Yorkers who were getting that 40% wanted to keep getting that 40%, and they had an agent in the White House. That Agent also wanted to keep those 50% tariffs flowing money into the treasury. The Southern exports paid for about 75% of the total federal revenues in 1860. Without them the government was in serious financial trouble.

The Union launched a war against the South to keep that money flowing into New York, to reestablish the federal tariff income, and most importantly to stop the South from creating a competing export economy in the South.

The War was over greed. The "slavery" excuse was put forth after the fact to justify all the blood and destruction caused by the greed of those who instigated the war.

The one thing the war was *NOT* about was slavery. Lincoln agreed to support the "Corwin Amendment" which would have made slavery permanently and protected by the US Constitution. Had the South stayed in the Union, Lincoln was going to bend over backward to make sure they could have all the slavery they wanted.

Slavery wasn't the cause of war. The Union being deprived of that slave earned money was the cause of the war.

GREED was the cause of the war.

61 posted on 06/30/2017 12:40:56 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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