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To: Pollster1
"...I just have not seen enough detail to criticize the damage control efforts. Having been in charge at the scene for both a serious fire and for flooding (one was bad timing on my part, while the other was by choice), I have trouble faulting their damage control efforts..."

I understand 100%. And you stated that well.

And you understand the laws the Captain is bound to, and his responsibility, that seems pretty clear from your post. Command at sea is a harsh law, even in this modern world, hard to live up to and hard to accept. And it is often unfair. And every Captain or would be Captain know it and accepts it.

I admit, I still find that strange that it is understood and accepted, even if the Captain knows it may be his head on the block. I guess they accept it, because they feel that they will never make the mistake that puts them at the "long green table".

And the majority of them don't.

196 posted on 06/26/2017 7:02:33 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals are in a state of constant cognitive dissonance, which explains their mental instability.)
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To: rlmorel
I admit, I still find that strange that it is understood and accepted, even if the Captain knows it may be his head on the block. I guess they accept it, because they feel that they will never make the mistake that puts them at the "long green table".

One of my Captains (my best one ever) explained why he thought the harsh standards were right. Basically, he saw it not just as he "accepts responsibility" the way a weak politician pretends to accept responsibility and then blames 300 other people. My Captain said it really was his responsibility, because he was directly responsible for anything that went wrong:

- If he was asleep in a tight situation and the OOD didn't call him in time, he was at fault for creating an atmosphere where the OOD was reluctant to call.
- If the OOD was not competent to recognize that he should have called the Captain, he was responsible for training an OOD poorly or for qualifying an OOD who should not have been qualified.
- If the OOD was overwhelmed by a military situation, or by the number of contacts in restricted waters or in a shipping lane, he was responsible for putting a mostly capable but still rookie OOD in a tough situation without extra supervision.

The bottom line was that with absolute responsibility on the CO, a good Captain would not just passively accept responsibility and hope lightning never struck. He would take all possible actions to make sure lightning never struck.

I was my favorite Captain's "Drill OOD", meaning I was the OOD for morning watch drills during outside inspections. We did VERY well on those inspections. I was also OOD for no more than half of all drills, even in the run up to an inspection. When something went wrong, every qualified OOD would have trained on that emergency recently and been observed responding to that situation.

220 posted on 06/27/2017 3:37:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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