A little good news to help you sleep better at night.
I think the original plan was for ~400 units.
1 posted on
06/21/2017 3:42:08 PM PDT by
Mariner
To: Mariner
2 posted on
06/21/2017 3:45:50 PM PDT by
momincombatboots
(White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
To: Mariner
Air dominance is always a good investment.
3 posted on
06/21/2017 3:46:26 PM PDT by
RC one
(The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
To: Mariner
Compare to what the F35 costs now and what that delivers Raptors are a bargain. No chance to get more in 2009.
To: Mariner
I would assume the same line that they built the F-22 on has now been retooled for the F-35. So restarting the F-22 would likely put a crimp in F-35 deliveries, unless the government pays for a whole new assembly line for the F-22. And what would that add to the per-unit cost?
To: Mariner
750 scaled back to 400, scaled back to 187 - at least 2 of those have crashed
7 posted on
06/21/2017 3:52:41 PM PDT by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
To: Mariner
I think the original plan was for ~400 units.
The original plan, that was used to justify a new start, was for 850 units. That was derived from actual mission need. It was used as a basis for design decisions on developing new technology (e.g. actuators) versus using off-the-shelf technology.
By the time we won the production contract, the official planning quantity was 648 aircraft, which was based on all sorts of numbers but practically was a direct replacement for F-15s rather than a true mission need analysis. It was on this number that we based production decisions like automation (robots) versus manual fabrication techniques. Changing both of those decisions added a lot of unit cost to the program because the payoff was in spreading the development over more units.
If someone had intended to commit deliberate and malicious treason, they could hardly have made a more effective attack against our nation than limiting the F-22 to 187 planes.
9 posted on
06/21/2017 3:57:54 PM PDT by
Phlyer
To: Mariner
Start buying F-15 Silent Eagles as well as more F-22’s.
No need to start a new Production Line for the F-15’s.
The engineering is done.
Also build a modern version of the A-10 Warthog and give it to the Marines. Use what already works and add updated Technology.
If that’s too expensive, rebuild every A-10 Airframe in our Inventory using the latest and greatest. It’s already the best at what it does. None of this Multi Role garbage.
Yes, all the world’s problems can be solved by me and my Laptop. LOL
11 posted on
06/21/2017 4:10:08 PM PDT by
Kickass Conservative
( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
To: Mariner
The Air Force has provided the House a classified report on restarting the F-22 Raptor fighter jet program, congressional staff said Tuesday. Did some rat bastard Democrat party hack leak it to the NYT?
14 posted on
06/21/2017 4:21:30 PM PDT by
Mark17
(Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
To: Mariner
To: Mariner
Cancelled in 2009. That was the bath house traitor’s doing. Why am I not in the least surprise?
18 posted on
06/21/2017 4:31:04 PM PDT by
Tucker39
(Known as the Father of modern agriculture)
To: Mariner
The real question shouldn’t be F-22 v. F-35 but why we need fighter pilots in the first place. With the state of radars and missiles, I don’t think there will ever be another meaningful dogfight with a US aircraft, aerial combat will be done from standoff range in the future, if at all.
Put the money into drones and figure out how to remove more Americans from the battlefields.
24 posted on
06/21/2017 4:54:19 PM PDT by
jz638
To: Mariner
At last. Something right.
29 posted on
06/21/2017 5:19:38 PM PDT by
Sequoyah101
(It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
To: Mariner
Wow! Is Newt Gingrich back in DC pulling strings for the Cobb County economy? Are we seeing a Karen Handel winner effect already?
40 posted on
06/21/2017 5:59:28 PM PDT by
higgmeister
( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
To: Mariner
I like it! Quality in quantity sounds good to me.
It'll be expensive retooling up for production again, but then, where are you going to find a better airplane than the F-22?
Restarting production would also allow for improving on the original manufacturing and design with all they've learned in the field since obama shut it down, including any design changes to counter aircraft that didn't exist originally.
So, as good as the current F-22 is now, imagine how much better the "new" F-22 would be!
Should give US absolute air superiority for a couple decades or so with the numbers to back it up.
49 posted on
06/21/2017 7:03:35 PM PDT by
GBA
(Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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