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To: DoodleDawg
“I'm guessing the rebellion had something to do with that. Press of issues requiring his immediate attention and all that.”

There was time to prepare a 13th amendment before Lincoln's War. It fact it was done.

Lincoln even addressed the proposed 13th amendment in his first inaugural address”

“I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution — which amendment, however, I have not seen — has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. To avoid misconstruction of what I have said, I depart from my purpose not to speak of particular amendments so far as to say that, holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.”

So there was time before the war for the North to prepare a constitutional amendment to make slavery “irrevocable” but not time to prepare an amendment to abolish it?

It looks like the North didn't seriously consider the advantages of abolishing the slavery they had enshrined into the U.S. constitution.

Of course, history records that once the high casualty figures began pouring in, Lincoln scabbed onto the conflict the notion the North was “fighting to free the slaves.”

439 posted on 06/24/2017 6:56:18 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
There was time to prepare a 13th amendment before Lincoln's War. It fact it was done

But after the southern states had announced their secession.

So there was time before the war for the North to prepare a constitutional amendment to make slavery “irrevocable” but not time to prepare an amendment to abolish it?

Since the southern states had already announced their secession and were preparing for their war then it really didn't matter what amendments were proposed.

It looks like the North didn't seriously consider the advantages of abolishing the slavery they had enshrined into the U.S. constitution.

You are aware that the 13th Amendment was passed and sent to the states while the rebellion was still ongoing, aren't you?

Of course, history records that once the high casualty figures began pouring in, Lincoln scabbed onto the conflict the notion the North was “fighting to free the slaves.”

Of course history does.

440 posted on 06/24/2017 11:53:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: jeffersondem
"So there was time before the war for the North to prepare a constitutional amendment to make slavery “irrevocable” but not time to prepare an amendment to abolish it?"

Are you daft? The part bolded by me above is a boldfaced lie. That is the grossest distortion of the Corwin Amendment that I have ever read. It indicates a disturbed mind. Read again the President Lincoln quote that you provided, "the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service." In no way does that mean slavery was irrevocable. It means the Feds could have no hand in interfering with it. It meant that Lincoln had no power to interfere with Southern Slavery. It gave the States sole power to deal with slavery, each within its own borders. This was an effort, and a good one, to forestall the impending Civil War. In fact Lincoln personally sent letters to each States governor to be sure they knew of the amendment. The South would have none of it. When will it occur to you that the South had ulterior motives in seceding? Perhaps having to do with their own political and economic (peculiar) interests? Most lost causers say slavery would have ended soon anyway. What was the problem that the South had with the Corwin Amendment?

443 posted on 06/24/2017 8:28:32 PM PDT by HandyDandy ("I reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war.")
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