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To: HandyDandy
"In the 1770s, blacks throughout New England began sending petitions to northern legislatures demanding freedom. Five of the Northern self-declared states adopted policies to at least gradually abolish slavery: Pennsylvania (1780), New Hampshire and Massachusetts (1783), Connecticut and Rhode Island (1784). Vermont abolished slavery in 1777, while it was still independent, and when it joined the United States as the 14th state in 1791 it was the first state to join untainted by slavery. These state jurisdictions thus enacted the first abolition laws in the Americas. By 1804 (including, New York (1799), New Jersey (1804)), all of the northern states had abolished slavery or set measures in place to gradually reduce it."

In jeffersondem's defense - and I still cannot believe I'm saying that - if we trace the creation of the original 13 states to the Continental Congress and the Declaration of Independence then strictly speaking all of them abolished slavery after they became states. On the other hand, if we trace states back to the ratification of the Constitution then you are correct and five Northern states and Vermont had abolished slavery before then.

357 posted on 06/20/2017 1:25:00 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg; jeffersondem

I too am surprised that you are defending him. Maybe it’s because he said he likes you. You know that he now wants to reply with, “critic answers critic”. He has become predictable and needs fresh material. Please note again the wiki entry. Vermont was slave free when it became a state in the United States. Just prior, it was independent (not yet a part of the U.S.) and slave free. I will stand by my statement that at no time in the history of the United States can it be truly said that “all the northern states were slave states (”original” or whatever). I guess it depends on his clever cover-up of “original states” and whatever that is intended to mean in his mind.


358 posted on 06/20/2017 1:55:17 PM PDT by HandyDandy ("I reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war.")
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