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To: Bryanw92
It is arguable that Europe's affluence is due to the USA taking on the expense of defending Europe from the Communists and from Germany. That is a huge gift to the European economies, now economy. If we had terminated that arrangement and made or allowed Europe to pay its own way in defense then Europe would have no more need of NATO and would probably have devolved into its previous Warring States condition.

We still need to maintain Europe because Germany has risen enough from its ashes to again begin to make real power plays in the Continent and the world. Most of Europe now is pretty much a German colony but not with armies and slaughter. If we allow Germany/Europe to develop a military capability that is commensurate with its economy we would be a resurgent Germany/(europe) vying militarily to be one of the Great Powers again, and ultimately THE Great Power. I would rather we put that off a few more years.

I would like to see the US with Trump develop a sand approach to Islam and force Europe to expel the cancer it has imported. We can do that. It would require an America not oriented to the Millennial snowflakes generation, though.

49 posted on 05/29/2017 2:26:44 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: ThanhPhero

see the US with Trump develop a sand approach to Islam..What’s a ‘SAND” approach’? I thought they had lots of sand over there?


59 posted on 05/29/2017 2:39:57 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: ThanhPhero
If we allow Germany/Europe to develop a military capability that is commensurate with its economy we would be a resurgent Germany/(europe) vying militarily to be one of the Great Powers again, and ultimately THE Great Power. I would rather we put that off a few more years.

Nonsense. The rise and return of German militarism will never happen. Germany and the rest of Europe are dying demographically. These are aging populations dependent upon a welfare state that is going broke. You don't build armies with fewer and fewer young people. And there is very little stomach for fighting in today's Germany where the youth have become pacifists and burdened by collective guilt for their Nazi past.

I say that advisedly being married to a German for 48 years, living in Berlin for four years and having visited the country regularly over the last 50 years.


60 posted on 05/29/2017 2:41:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ThanhPhero

I think you are missing the fact they are complaining because we don’t support the mass muslim migration they want. Their charge that we are “weakening”them is leftist insanity. How the hell could we possibly be doing that?


78 posted on 05/29/2017 2:58:17 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: ThanhPhero

>>We still need to maintain Europe because Germany has risen enough from its ashes to again begin to make real power plays in the Continent and the world.

What was done in the past was necessary because of the situation at the time. Just as a different situation now requires different thinking. I work with Germans a lot and they do not have the guts to be a Great Power much less THE Great Power. No European nation, including the USA, has the will to be a Great Power in the 20th century sense.


79 posted on 05/29/2017 3:02:09 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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