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To: DiogenesLamp
The North was asked to leave and refused. They were an unwelcome "guest" who refused to leave after the homeowner made it very clear that they were not wanted there.

If you mean Sumter then your metaphor is a whacked as you are. Sumter belonged to the union - Anderson had every right to be there and the South Carolinian's had ZERO right to try to expel them. What they did was an act of war.

The "We started a war to free the slaves" is just bullsh*t.

yes it is - so why do you keep repeating it?

92 posted on 05/25/2017 4:59:45 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr; DiogenesLamp
DL ~ The "We started a war to free the slaves" is just bullsh*t.

rockrr ~ yes it is - so why do you keep repeating it?

DL needs to cling to the invented arguments of the giant windmills he creates or his mad fantasy will blow away. He waxes "quixotic". He projects his anger of Davis and Stephens onto Lincoln. Someday, and it won't be a happy day, he will honestly ask himself why did the South secede. It won't be a pretty picture when he realizes they were only interested in preserving their peculiar economic institution. Follow the money, indeed.

97 posted on 05/25/2017 5:37:55 PM PDT by HandyDandy ("I reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war.")
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To: rockrr
Sumter belonged to the union - Anderson had every right to be there and the South Carolinian's had ZERO right to try to expel them.

Well that depends entirely on the question whether a Union voluntarily joined can be voluntarily left. The Declaration of Independence tells us that an Imposed Union over one thousand years old can be broken by this thing called a "natural right" granted by "nature and nature's God", so a rational person would conclude that this very same right which legitimized the USA, should also apply to anyone else that seeks independence.

What legal or moral argument do you assert that can stand against "nature, and nature's God"?

108 posted on 05/26/2017 11:53:44 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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