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To: ForYourChildren

A typical HR recruitment exerpt from my field.
“ Aeronautical engineer. Must have PhD in aeronautics. 25 years exeprience in all aspects of launch vehicles, satellites, aviation manufacturing, airfoil cfd analysis, mechanical, stress, and vibration resonance analysis. $45,000 per year with chance for advancement.”

I was a certified structural welder while I went to college (I was one of those fools that took no debt for college). I see the same wages offered today as I was paid nearly 20 years ago. Even engineering wages are the same since I started about 15 years ago. Wages are stuck and stink while the cost of everything has gone way up.


14 posted on 05/20/2017 10:17:43 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: Organic Panic

$45K for a PhD in aeronautics? That just doesn’t seem right. A literal rocket scientist for $45K?


15 posted on 05/20/2017 10:29:50 AM PDT by numberonepal (First they came for Sarah, then they came for Herman, and now they've come for Trump.)
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To: Organic Panic

That particular ad is clearly intended to demonstrate that “there are no Americans available for this position; therefore you must approve our H1b visa application” so they can hire an Indian at $45k per year.


18 posted on 05/20/2017 10:34:31 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Organic Panic

What a joke! A PhD making 45 k. I make more then that working construction


21 posted on 05/20/2017 10:38:08 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Organic Panic

Sorry but i need to call BS on this. The job description you list is either wrong or written by an idiot. An aero eng right out of college who can obtain a secret clearance will start for Lockheed Martin in Fort Worth’s Aeronautics Business Unit at over 60k. One with 25 years of CFD will bring well over 130k. If he is a stress and structures loads guy with 10 yrs exp he will make over 100k. Not a one of these guys will ever set foot on the manufacturing floor so manufacturing exp is a who cares. What is listed in the JD you reference is about 3 jobs not one. Even in Lockheed’s Space Systems company everything I say above applies. If you have any of these skills you should be applying to jobs with Northrop on the long range bomber program in FLA and OK.


24 posted on 05/20/2017 10:43:22 AM PDT by superfries
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To: Organic Panic

45K for that experience?!?! Holy crap, that’s almost entry level field tech out here in CA.

I started at 29K in 1991 out here as a geologist and that’s with a bachelors. Ironically, the guy I always call for plumbing stuff I can’t take care of is a Phd’d geophysicist. He does kick ass though, and proves without a doubt that if you can “get shit done” you can get work doing just about anything.


40 posted on 05/20/2017 11:57:08 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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