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How Did Russiagate Start?
rollingstone.com ^ | 15 May 2017 | Matt Taibbi

Posted on 05/19/2017 11:05:30 PM PDT by Helicondelta

What exactly is the FBI investigating? Why was it kept secret from other intelligence chiefs, if that's what happened? That matters, if we're trying to gauge what happened last week.

Is it a FARA (Foreign Agent Registration Act) case involving former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn or a lower-level knucklehead like Carter Page?

Since FARA is violated more or less daily in Washington and largely ignored by authorities unless it involves someone without political connections (an awful lot of important people in Washington who appear to be making fortunes lobbying for foreign countries are merely engaged in "litigation support," if you ask them), it would be somewhat anticlimactic to find out that this was the alleged crime underlying our current white-hot constitutional crisis.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coup; fara; russia; trumprussia
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To: Alberta's Child

Taibbi’s Dad use to be a reporter for the local CBS news station in NYC. When I see the Taibbi name I always picture his Dad’s face.


41 posted on 05/20/2017 9:47:35 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Slyfox
No, Seth Rich was shot twice in the back and murdered July 10, 2016. Comprehensive Seth Rich timeline
42 posted on 05/20/2017 10:25:34 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (All you have to do is the next right thing.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Notice how the Clinton Foundation is no longer in business? They shut it down and moved all the assets to Hillary’s PAC. This needs to be investigated.

That is what is most egregious about all of these Russian allegations. Here we have bonafide felonies spewing out like a huge hot beer warehouse and they can find nothing to investigate? They have to make stuff up about Trump?

The lamestreamers have shown their real worth, which is why their ratings are in the bottom portion of the bottom half of the tank.

43 posted on 05/20/2017 11:21:25 AM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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To: Helicondelta
It started the same way that Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matter started.In a smoke filled room (of course the smoke was pot smoke) in order to seize control of an issue.
44 posted on 05/20/2017 4:42:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Neither Congress nor the FBI issued a records preservation order either.


45 posted on 05/20/2017 4:50:16 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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To: Helicondelta

Hillary planted the seed in one of her debates. She probably thought she was being subtle mentioning Russia. The minute she said it, I thought, “Aha! THAT’S how they’re going to rationalize things if she loses the election.” That debate was exactly where it started.


46 posted on 05/20/2017 5:07:58 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("If we cannot control our tempers, what has grace done for us?" Charles Spurgeon)
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To: Helicondelta
It started when President Trump hired Manaford... The Cruz zealots here on FR and the GOPe. were slinging mud about that hire and supposed Manaford Russian connections...

The GOPe handed off their dirty made up gossip to the liberals to stop Trump!!!!! And you Cruz zealots, your man was in this up to his eyeballs.

47 posted on 05/20/2017 5:15:27 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: MtnClimber
From what I can gather, the Hillary Campaign came up with the Russia story ( from the hillary campaign book, I don't recall the title) the day after the defeat to delegitimize the Trump win with the story “the Russians stole the election” So far it seems that DNC IT staffer Seth Rich forwarded over 44,000 e-mails with about 17,000 attachments to wickileaks. Seth was shot in the back and killed just after he released the e-mails, but before wickileaks posted them. The democRATs are trying to blame the e-mail relaee on Trump collaboration with Russia. It seems it was DNC saffer Seath Rich who was a Bernie supporter and was upset that the DNC sabotaged Bernie so he released the DNC e-mails that showed what they did..

The whole "The Russians Hacked the DNC!" affair was cooked up by the Hillary campaign in concert with Trump's enemies in the intelligence community as a way for the media and the Democrats to distract the public from the embarrassing WikiLeaks e-mail disclosures during Hillary's election campaign of the DNC colluding with the media, their trashing of Bernie Sanders, etc.

There are were two actual leaks. The first happened when Hillary's campaign manager, John Podesta, responded to a 'change your password' phish email. He clicked on it and gave away his password. It was a trick that could have been done by a 14 year old. Podesta used the same password for his gmail, Twitter, Facebook, etc. No skills involved, anybody could have done it, and there is no evidence of elite 'Russian hackers' using sophisticated or deep techniques to infiltrate his laptop. Podesta was just an idiot.

Second, all of the alleged evidence of "Russian fingerprints" on the so-called hacked DNC servers comes from just one guy: Dmitry Alperovitch, the Russian ex-pat head of the shady security firm CrowdStrike, whom the DNC had paid to check their servers.

There is a flattering article on Dmitry in Esquire where Dmitry brags about how he 'discovered the Russian hackers' using his fancy counterhacker tools (basically a free advertisement for CrowdStrike). See http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a49902/the-russian-emigre-leading-the-fight-to-protect-america/ .

Keep in mind that:

Basically Dmitry was paid by the DNC to find what they wanted him to find, and he did.

48 posted on 05/20/2017 5:57:23 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Slyfox

Remember this: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russian-mafia-money-laundering-clinton-foundation-and-john-podesta/ri17036ber


49 posted on 05/20/2017 8:42:25 PM PDT by Ambrosia ('If it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck...., unless it's an imposter!)
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To: Slyfox

Hope this link works, if not, copy and put in browser search, it worked that way for me. My Apologies.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/russian-mafia-money-laundering-clinton-foundation-and-john-podesta/ri17036


50 posted on 05/20/2017 8:50:25 PM PDT by Ambrosia ('If it walks like a duck, quakes like a duck...., unless it's an imposter!)
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To: Slyfox

This all started in 2011 when idiots in the Obama Administration made the decision for Arab Spring, and using social media (Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc) to revolutionize ‘democracy’. The list of affected countries would eventually include Russia.

At the end of 2011...came a Russian Parliament election and four months later...the Presidential election. All of a sudden...here came these opposition groups who used social media to a huge degree and challenged the Putin campaign effort.

When the smoke cleared...Putin was furious at the meddling involved and looked at the US. The person hyping up this effort? Sec of State Hillary Clinton. She was the face of the whole effort. So they waited.

In the beginning of 2016, they went to spark up fake news and biased reporting just like like the US efforts were done in 2011/2012. Same tools, same tactics. Bernie got a lift because of this. Later, Trump got a lift.

Russiagate....if word fits....really starts with Arab-Spring-gate, and comes to Hillary’s unfocused meddling in Russian politics. Never once did these idiots think or worry about their meddling triggering the Russians to meddle as well.


51 posted on 05/20/2017 9:52:08 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Slyfox

Coincidence that Seth Richards was murdered then also? What was he sending to Wikileaks?


52 posted on 05/21/2017 6:04:26 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Gas attacks. Substitute Sadam for Assad and Iraq for Syria? How many American lives do you commit)
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To: ping jockey
This would in turn reopen the discussion of the voluminous number of associates of the Clintons that are taking dirt naps as a result of that association.

(101 Peculiarities Surrounding the Death of Vincent Foster).....none of the numerable deaths surrounding the Clinton's were ever put under the scrutiny of a special prosecutor...the FBI & CIA covered for these two felons....why? Bill and Hill were making people wealthy or dead.

53 posted on 05/21/2017 9:26:13 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Slyfox; LS; Liz
The problem the Deep State media, is most of us are finding it difficult so easy not to watch the nightly news, the late night comics and SNL, so we have stopped watching.

The 62+ million voters for Trump are not buying any fake news about our president.

The Deep State's fake news purveyors controlled and owned by the Deep State are playing their bs Fake News in an echo chamber for themselves and the Clinton voters, not the Trump nor Bernie voters.

Their focus groups on independent voters and Republican voters have to be showing that this Russia bs "ain't" working with us. As that continues to happen, watch them start to muzzle Mad Maxine/Pelosi and other rat idiots screaming, "Impeach Trump because of Russia/Russia/Russia!!!"

After that happens, what will be the Deep State's new Fake News focus? A fake news focus based again on unnamed sources to try and discredit President Trump?

Stay tuned. We will be among the first to read it and hear how this will destroy Trump, again and again until the latest Fake News destroys itself, again!

54 posted on 05/21/2017 10:04:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (100+ days without Hilliarly/Huma as POTUS! Thanks, President Trump for this great reality!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Scary! This image makes my tagline even more valid!


55 posted on 05/21/2017 10:10:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (120+ days without Hilliarly/Huma as POTUS! Thanks, President Trump for this great reality gift!)
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To: Liz
Humiliated Hillary had to find a reason why she lost 2016.....so they came up with the Russians. At the time Hillary said, "They don't like me."


56 posted on 05/21/2017 10:14:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (120+ days without Hilliarly/Huma as POTUS! Thanks, President Trump for this great reality gift!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Nice slide show of Hillary’s defeat.


57 posted on 05/21/2017 12:03:03 PM PDT by Liz ( Liberalism is standing on your head and telling the rest of the world that it's upside down.)
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To: pepsionice
The trick the left likes to play is to blame us for what they themselves are already doing.

Pure Alinsky.

The lamestreamers are up to their eyeballs in covering up felonies for the left.

They think that if they keep the pressure on we all just may capitulate and condemn Trump.

But that ain't gonna happen.

We all are watching and listening. At some point they are not going to like our response.

58 posted on 05/21/2017 1:19:16 PM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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To: Grampa Dave
You know what happens when I finish watching the local news in the early evening? I switch it off after I see the weather report.

What happens when I am watching local news at night? Do I leave it on to watch the late night comics when I would usually flip between the two Jimmy's or that Colbert guy if I am in the mood? Nope. I switch it over to "Friends" reruns.

Is it any wonder that 750,000 people got rid of their cable this last year?

Looks to me that not only Obama, Hillary, Soros, Antifa, and all of organizers are working on us, the media is in on it also.

Y'all lamestreamers, the more you grind our faces into the dirt the more we will ignore you. And any focus group or poll you conduct to prove that you are successful, well, Hillary counted on your effort and you all got wasted.

59 posted on 05/21/2017 1:41:51 PM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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To: Slyfox

This is misdirection to point us away from what hillary was doing. She is the one who was wheeling and dealing with theUS uranium in a pay for play arrangement which netted the ClintonFoundation hundreds of millions of dollars. Come worked for the Foundation and he is towing the line. He and Mueller worked for clinton in hiding billions through BCCI. It has now taken on a life of its own. The dems found a tangential association between lynne and the Russians, and are in the process of writing a fiction to make people think Trump and company were they bad guys. The dems are writing the curve and Trump et.al. are piecing together what in the world are these people talking about. Trump needs a much higher index of suspicion.


60 posted on 05/21/2017 1:44:34 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (proawaki)
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