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To: otness_e

You have no idea of just how this political climate differs from
from that of 50 yrs ago. There is no similarity between that time
and now. There were Leftists infiltrating and trying to destroy
the country but NEVER would politicians have taken the positions
the democrat/media screams from the roof tops. What passes as middle of the road
politics today would have been considered Nutcase Radicalism and
laughed of the public stage.

I just lost a long thread because of the idiotic Windows 10 and do not
have the energy to rewrite it. However, your view of the AWM is
far too monolithic and not representative of the reality of that time.
Same is true wrt to your view of the media and the Democrats.

The fact there were conservative Democrats does not suggest that
that Reagan should not have been dissatisfied with the influence
of the Left. As I said before there was little difference in political
parties in terms of ideology nothing like the irreconcilable
split of today.


394 posted on 07/10/2017 1:02:14 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

“You have no idea of just how this political climate differs from that of 50 yrs ago. There is no similarity between that time and now. There were Leftists infiltrating and trying to destroy the country but NEVER would politicians have taken the positions the democrat/media screams from the roof tops. What passes as middle of the road politics today would have been considered Nutcase Radicalism and laughed of the public stage.”

Oh, I have a fairly good idea of how the political climate differed, but I just think the left just hid it better than most back then. If there truly was a stark difference like you said there was, the Free Speech Movement would NEVER have gotten off the ground, and in fact, its ring leaders would have been rightfully denounced as radicals and laughed off by even the administrators, not capitulating to them like cowards.

“I just lost a long thread because of the idiotic Windows 10 and do not have the energy to rewrite it. However, your view of the AWM is far too monolithic and not representative of the reality of that time. Same is true wrt to your view of the media and the Democrats.”

I agree that the AWM was not actually a representative view of reality (after all, Nixon won in a landslide). However, they got face time, and the media if anything was on their side, not reporting against them (just look at Walter Cronkite’s endorsement of them, even got an FBI file on him as a result). And join the club regarding reboots erasing everything you’ve written. I’ve had to deal with a LOT of that myself, either a tab basically having to refresh automatically, or my screen going blank after going frozen, or the monitor just up and out losing any connection to the computer, many times resulting in my being forced to force-restart the system.

“The fact there were conservative Democrats does not suggest that Reagan should not have been dissatisfied with the influence of the Left. As I said before there was little difference in political parties in terms of ideology nothing like the irreconcilable split of today.”

I wasn’t saying or even implying that Ronald Reagan should have been satisfied with the influence of the left (and quite frankly, I’m glad he was dissatisfied with the left’s growing influence, since if it weren’t for that, we wouldn’t have such a great president making America Great Again before Trump). I was saying that if there was little real difference between Democrats and Republicans back then, especially compared to today, there would have been little need for him to even defect to the Republican party.


395 posted on 07/11/2017 1:15:56 PM PDT by otness_e
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