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To: otness_e

There was nothing out of the USSR that was NOT disinformation nor was it limited to foreign nations but reached its height wrt its own population. JFK’s death would have no effect on this.

It was not possible for the CIA to have implemented control over portions of the media, not that it did not try. But recall there were media outlets which were Right-leaning and they were very much against the AWM. It was not till late in the game that certain elements came out openly against it.

It have no idea what the S3 plan is. But is also true that there were very few Senators who supported it, opposition was politically deadly as the Nixon election by the “Silent Majority” in 1972. Most Americans were against it but did not fight back allowing it to succeed.

Whereas the Pope may not have been pro-Nazi, you have to admit that the organization of the “Ratline” was a disgraceful episode in the history of the Roman Catholic Church.

While I rarely read the New Republic, I am unaware of it taking a position on the Assassination. It disinformation involved a far different intent.

It is silly to claim that assassinating Che would be anything like assassinating JFK. Even had the US done it, the USSR would not have done doodley squat about it. It is certainty that that would not have resulted in nuclear war.

It would have been the most dangerous act in history had the Soviets been behind the killing. I do not care what Pacepa says about it, his “revelations” are merely another version of the Lone Assassin theory. His knowledge of KGB’s actions is limited by the nature of Intelligence operational methods.

I will continue to examine ALL theories about the killing but the least probable explanation is that the KGB did it.


376 posted on 06/29/2017 12:33:19 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com)
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To: arrogantsob

“There was nothing out of the USSR that was NOT disinformation nor was it limited to foreign nations but reached its height wrt its own population. JFK’s death would have no effect on this.”

Clearly not, since there were a whole lot of defections going on and several of the defectors making clear what the true nature of the USSR was up to. One of those defectors, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, was even how we managed to learn about the truth of Stalin’s gulag camps, and the information was valid enough that most leftists actually left the Communist party in droves when Stalin’s crimes came to the forefront.

“It was not possible for the CIA to have implemented control over portions of the media, not that it did not try. But recall there were media outlets which were Right-leaning and they were very much against the AWM. It was not till late in the game that certain elements came out openly against it.”

Actually, most of the media was under the control of the left, and the CIA would not have been supportive of the left at all. In fact, we didn’t even get an actual right-leaning media outlet until FOX News. Before then, we got media that were left-leaning, either openly or otherwise pretending to be neutral. In fact, Walter Cronkite, the so-called “most trusted man in television”, was practically the FACE of the media as his moniker essentially implied, and he actually worked with the AWM in a very significant way as those FBI documents revealed.

“It have no idea what the S3 plan is. But is also true that there were very few Senators who supported it, opposition was politically deadly as the Nixon election by the “Silent Majority” in 1972. Most Americans were against it but did not fight back allowing it to succeed.”

Okay, you know the Metal Gear series, right? Well, one of the games, Metal Gear Solid 2, basically had a concept of influencing the will of the masses known as the S3 Plan (which stood for “Selection for Societal Sanity”). This scene essentially explains what it is all about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6WjfDqYA One of the scenes in the game also strongly implied that Dead Cell had been framed by the Patriots and literally everyone believed it. That’s what I meant about manipulating the media, basically something like that to that level.

“Whereas the Pope may not have been pro-Nazi, you have to admit that the organization of the “Ratline” was a disgraceful episode in the history of the Roman Catholic Church.”

Not sure how methods of escape the Nazis utilized during the aftermath of World War II had anything to do with the Roman Catholic Church.

“While I rarely read the New Republic, I am unaware of it taking a position on the Assassination. It disinformation involved a far different intent.”

IF Stone was a paid KGB agent, so yes, actually, it’s the same intent as the Soviets, and yes, they would need to do disinformation if they were to cover their own butts for the assassination.

“It is silly to claim that assassinating Che would be anything like assassinating JFK. Even had the US done it, the USSR would not have done doodley squat about it. It is certainty that that would not have resulted in nuclear war.”

No, no, you misunderstand: Them even ENDORSING and martyring Che would have been grounds for a nuclear war, being just as bad as assassinating a sitting president, precisely BECAUSE of his nearly instigating a nuclear war himself. That’s what I’m getting at. Had I been the US government and the USSR proceeded to lionize Che, we’d drop a nuke on Moscow immediately, especially after exposing to the public all the horrors that Che did, innodating them with the information to such an extent that the KGB not only would fail to sway anyone, but in fact ironically have the populace instead demand their blood.

“It would have been the most dangerous act in history had the Soviets been behind the killing. I do not care what Pacepa says about it, his “revelations” are merely another version of the Lone Assassin theory. His knowledge of KGB’s actions is limited by the nature of Intelligence operational methods.”

He wrote a book about disinformation methods, which he made clear were completely of a different class under the KGB than under any other Western intelligence agency. And he’d know from personal experience.

“I will continue to examine ALL theories about the killing but the least probable explanation is that the KGB did it.”

Yeah, and people said it was least probable that Stalin could commit those murders, yet here we are, he did indeed do so. And the Mitonkhin Archive already proved they were in on the assassination anyways.


377 posted on 06/29/2017 4:30:27 PM PDT by otness_e
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