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$8 Billion Deal Gives Crucial Momentum to G.O.P. Health Bill
New York Times ^
| May 3, 2017
| By THOMAS KAPLAN and ROBERT PEAR
Posted on 05/03/2017 1:59:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Parley Baer
They enroll in high risk pools.
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posted on
05/03/2017 5:23:47 PM PDT
by
SVTCobra03
(You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
To: Sir_Ed
Healthcare is not a proper function of government.
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posted on
05/03/2017 5:25:35 PM PDT
by
SVTCobra03
(You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
If coverage for preexisting maladies are guaranteed, why buy insurance at all?
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posted on
05/03/2017 5:33:39 PM PDT
by
deadrock
(I is someone else.)
To: Sir_Ed
Agree with you Sir. Conservatives get sick too! I don’t believe we should be left to die because of circumstances (sometimes) beyond our control.
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posted on
05/03/2017 5:38:07 PM PDT
by
angelrod
To: Buckeye McFrog
Fred’s the biggest b**b in the Upton family, even granting niece Kate’s pair.
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posted on
05/03/2017 7:08:52 PM PDT
by
JohnBovenmyer
(Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Mr. Upton predicted the bill was likely to pass the House, a tremendous reversal of momentum for a measure that has twice been pulled back from a vote for lack of support.
Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the Democratic leader, criticized that plan. The proposed Upton amendment is like administering cough medicine to someone with stage four cancer, he said in a statement. This Republican amendment leaves Americans with pre-existing conditions as vulnerable as they were before under this bill.
Influential Republican Congressman for it, Democrat Majority Leader against it, and there are ostensibly enough votes to pass it tomorrow. Repeal and replace Obamacare.
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posted on
05/03/2017 7:12:59 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Trump is trying to save the nation, but it is not salvagable. I should have realized that despite his election. All he can do is to slow down the decline and put off the fall, and not by very much either.
We are so doomed.
That is President Trump and you may be so doomed but you do not have to be. Pray without ceasing that God will continue to show us mercy to turn from our wickedness as a nation and make America safe, secure, and a blessing to all of our citizens, as well as all our neighbors throughout the world. May He Who Inhabits the Heavens grant wisdom, understanding, and knowledge to President Donald Trump, Vice President Michael Pence, their families, staff, and all who exercise just and rightful authority in the land. May we be grateful for this miracle and that Hillary Clinton is not President this very day.
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posted on
05/03/2017 7:18:48 PM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: SVTCobra03
Dave Mason said it best: we just disagree.
Government already covers health care for senior citizens and disabled persons, why not extend it to cover people who through no fault of their own cannot buy health insurance?
Ed
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posted on
05/04/2017 1:50:36 AM PDT
by
Sir_Ed
To: angelrod
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posted on
05/04/2017 1:53:46 AM PDT
by
Sir_Ed
To: af_vet_1981
It’s unbelievable how decadent we are as a nation. If someone had told me ten years ago that we would have homosexuals being married, and trumpeted as heroes, or that men would call themselves women and use women’s bathrooms, and furthermore would demand the right to punish people who refuse to accede to their mental illness and call them “women,” I’d have called them crazy!
I know almost no one who’s still in their first marriage, or hasn’t slept around before marriage, there’s even Christians sleeping together before marriage and they think it’s cool, okay with God, and here in Southern Oregon the farms and industrial sites are being taken over by pot farmers, who would have been thrown in jail for being drug dealers ten years ago, and now they’re seen as the salvation for small town Oregon, because of the pot taxes!
It’s sickening, we’re literally dying as a nation,and unless we change our hearts and minds and return to normalcy, I don’t see any way we’re coming back!
Ed
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posted on
05/04/2017 2:03:14 AM PDT
by
Sir_Ed
To: Lurkinanloomin
Obamacare becomes Obamaclu$terf&%$ Except that when it is passed it will become Trumpclu$terf&%$.
To: SVTCobra03
They enroll in high risk pools. If there is one. Nothing requires states to establish them or fund them appropriately.
To: DoodleDawg
High risk pools established by insurance companies, not states.
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posted on
05/04/2017 3:43:28 AM PDT
by
SVTCobra03
(You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
To: Parley Baer
So how do the people with pre-existing conditions such as cancer or diabetes get healthcare? We have a lot of folks here who don't give a damn about anyone else as long as they are OK - they call themselves "Principled"....
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posted on
05/04/2017 3:44:18 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
To: SVTCobra03
High risk pools established by insurance companies, not states. Why would they do that? How does a company make money off a pool of insured guaranteed to take far more money in claims than they pay in premiums? They don't, so where is the incentive for them?
To: Alberta's Child; Sir_Ed
Agreed—there sounds to be something off in that story.
But, the road we are headed down leads to more healthcare rationing, not less. Nationalized health systems have a very dark underbelly.
Also, this path leads to less healthcare innovation—and so fewer advanced treatments available for anyone.
To: Sir_Ed
Pray without ceasing. God can change hearts. We are witnesses.
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posted on
05/04/2017 4:39:31 AM PDT
by
af_vet_1981
(The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
To: trebb
“We have a lot of folks here who don’t give a damn about anyone else as long as they are OK - they call themselves “Principled”.... “
Funny, as I am drawn to the same conclusion you have come to.
To: NorthMountain
Uh, hello GEICO I'd like to get your cheapest full coverage zero deductible policy for my new car.
To: af_vet_1981
Amen, very wise words...
Ed
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posted on
05/04/2017 12:52:44 PM PDT
by
Sir_Ed
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