However, I sense just a wee bit of hostility for me in your words that really isn't warranted as in reality, and looking at this non-emotionally (which I don't do nearly enough), we're actually mostly in agreement.
To your first paragraph, I am not one of the GOPe, nor do I look at our immigration past starry-eyed in any way. My ancestry is mostly Puritan English from the 1630s so I could argue that aside for Indians, every one else is a dang foreign immigrant, even you Irish!
But in reality, I just don't care. If you are a conservative and lover of the United States and the Constitution, then I stand with you. Your color, ethnic origin, etc.? I really couldn't care less. If you're a socialist/communist or fundamentalist Muslim? Get the F out of my country, and I don't care if you're white, black, yellow or pink with purple polkadots. And you're right, the democrats WANT these people, no matter how unacceptable they are as citizens, because they'll vote for dems.
Having said that, perhaps your posting has been used before in the past as it looks really familiar to me, or we've had this debate before; maybe both.
Still, I respect your data and figures and you won't get an argument out of me as to your accuracy--it is accurate.
What I think is missing is the fact that so much of the EVENTS this data points to has ALREADY occurred. It's like arguing the budget deficit using the Bush era numbers when we are now in the post-Obama mega-deficit era.
The fact is, all these immigrants are already here. And, from a pragmatic view, the pipeline is not going to be shut off. I do consider THAT quite unfortunate, as I too believe a moratorium on immigrants should occur in order for us to "digest" the huge, or hugest chunk we've just swallowed whole. If Trump suggests it, the country will explode with not just angry liberals, but as you say the GOPe, too.
So just WHAT should we do about the problem?
You said: Our educational system used to act as a vehicle for assimilation. Now it has become a way to divide people thru multiculturalism and diversity.
My posting was concentrating on just this issue alone. It is not an "If you can't beat 'em, join em" message at all, but only to point out that we once were able to assimilate immigrants. We NEED to do it again.
Because... They're already here, which only gives us the choice of converting them, or let them complete their mission of ruining our country.
My opinion is we can't put the immigrant genie back in the bottle. At least without a lot more political victories than just Donald Trump. If you disagree, explain how we can reduce, or better, stop immigration, and even send some back? I'm honestly not asking to bait you, but to hear your proposal, as I well know you work on this for a living.
Anyway, I have two teenage kids. They are both white, Christian (well, Catholic!) conservatives. I do not want to see them become a prosecuted minority in their future days.
If there was any hostility towards you, it was not intended. It comes from the frustration I have had with Reps on this issue whether it is at local county political meetings, briefing Rep candidates like Cantor, George Allen, Ed Gillespie, etc, and during the five CPACs I attended as an exhibitor with our grassroots immigration organization. Only Dave Brat paid attention and used immigration as a winning issue. The rest expressed views like yours that equated today's immigration with those in our history.
To your first paragraph, I am not one of the GOPe, nor do I look at our immigration past starry-eyed in any way. My ancestry is mostly Puritan English from the 1630s so I could argue that aside for Indians, every one else is a dang foreign immigrant, even you Irish!
On my mother's side, I can trace us back to 1704 when Swiss and German relatives settled in PA. My maternal grandfather can trace his roots back to Thomas Hooker and John Alden. The Irish came as a result of the potato famine. And my paternal grandmother came from Liverpool.
But in reality, I just don't care. If you are a conservative and lover of the United States and the Constitution, then I stand with you. Your color, ethnic origin, etc.? I really couldn't care less. If you're a socialist/communist or fundamentalist Muslim? Get the F out of my country, and I don't care if you're white, black, yellow or pink with purple polkadots. And you're right, the democrats WANT these people, no matter how unacceptable they are as citizens, because they'll vote for dems.
You may not care what color, ethnic origin, political ideology, etc. people are, but the reality is that we have tribal politics where those things matter and they translate into a permanent Dem majority if the demographic trend continues. The concept of white privilege is just a harbinger of things to come as minorities become the majority. Will the new majority (actually the name of a leftist group in VA) identify with the vision and values of our Founders or see them as old, bigoted white men who inflicted slavery and oppression on downtrodden minorities?
There is no way you will be able to put a political or religious test on immigrants entering this country and you won't be able to tell them to "get the F out of my country."
What I think is missing is the fact that so much of the EVENTS this data points to has ALREADY occurred. It's like arguing the budget deficit using the Bush era numbers when we are now in the post-Obama mega-deficit era.
Yes, it has occurred and it is occurring unabated right now. Do we have to accept it as a given that we bring in 1.1 million legal permanent immigrants a year, 87% of whom are minorities as classified by the USG, and the vast majority come from the Third World. 20% of the adult heads of household lack even a high school diploma. Do we need more high school dropouts to compete with Americans for jobs ? Add to this 640,000 guest workers a year and hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens entering annually.
We can change our immigration policies and start enforcing our existing immigration laws. We can put American workers and their families first when it comes to immigration policies. We have the lowest labor participation rates since the 1970s. Immigrants, legal and illegal, are taking American jobs and depressing wages. Moreover, they are not assimilating and want us to accommodate to their views and values. The Rule of Law no longer exists as we have elected officials supporting sanctuary cities and amnesty.
Do you believe that these policies must continue since they happened in the past?
The fact is, all these immigrants are already here. And, from a pragmatic view, the pipeline is not going to be shut off. I do consider THAT quite unfortunate, as I too believe a moratorium on immigrants should occur in order for us to "digest" the huge, or hugest chunk we've just swallowed whole. If Trump suggests it, the country will explode with not just angry liberals, but as you say the GOPe, too.
Why can't you shut off the pipeline? Do you believe an amnesty is inevitable and should be implemented? In fact, polls show most Americans want a reduction in legal immigration. Based on my anecdotal encounters with CPAC attendees over five years, I was constantly amazed at how uninformed they were on immigration. One question I always asked was, "How many legal permanent immigrants are admitted to the US annually?" Most gave answers between 10,000 to 50,000. Some went as high as 100,000 and a very few gave the right answer of 1.1 million. Pretty amazing given these were supposed to be politically active conservatives. They were stunned when I gave the numbers. The open border advocates have been very successful in keeping the American public in the dark about immigration. And it is very difficult to get immigration data from state and local governments, especially the schools.
Only 22% of likely U.S. voters believe that "bringing in more immigrant workers would create economic growth, which would provide more jobs for unemployed Americans." 66% believe that increased immigration creates more competition for unemployed Americans. 73% said that there are plenty of unemployed Americans to fill lesser-skilled jobs (Pulse Opinion, August 2013).
Only 23% of American adults support increasing immigration levels to the U.S. 35% want immigration decreased, while 40% want it to remain at its present level (the current number of over a million annual immigrant admissions was not supplied to respondents) (Gallup, July 2013).
So just WHAT should we do about the problem?
I thought you would never ask:
Principles
Immigration to America is a privilege and not a right
Immigration policy is a discretionary policy
Immigration policy must promote the national interest
We support a pro-immigrant, low immigration policy that contains the following elements:
A merit based immigration system that brings in the skills and talents to keep us competitive in the global economy;
Reduced immigration levels based on need and more closely approximating 300,000 legal immigrants a year;
Elimination of extended chain migration, i.e., family reunification, limiting it to the nuclear family;
Enforcement of existing immigration laws to reduce the current illegal alien population and limit future illegal immigration, i.e., attrition thru enforcement. Enforcement would include: (1) ending the job magnet; (2) increasing coordination at the federal level by eliminating barriers to information sharing among agencies; (3) leveraging state and local enforcement resources; (4) securing the border; (5) fully implementing the US-VISIT Program to track and deport visa overstays; and (6) make mandatory and improve such programs as E-Verify and 287 [g] authority to assist employers and law enforcement in identifying illegal aliens;
Elimination of birthright citizenship;
Ensure that anyone who enters this nation illegally is not rewarded by being permitted to stay and work here; i.e., no amnesty;
Streamline the processing and adjudication of immigration cases; and
Promote pro-immigrant measures that help newcomers assimilate and embrace the values and principles of our Founders and the Constitution.
“You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state.”-- Milton Friedman
My posting was concentrating on just this issue alone. It is not an "If you can't beat 'em, join em" message at all, but only to point out that we once were able to assimilate immigrants. We NEED to do it again.
We can't assimilate those kinds of numbers. By 2023 we will have more foreign-born per capita than at any time in our history as a nation. By the way, did you take the time to look at the link I provided to Professor Huntington's article that went into great length on the differences between today's persistent, non-stop immigration compared to those previously?
Because... They're already here, which only gives us the choice of converting them, or let them complete their mission of ruining our country.
False choice. We do not have to accept 12 to 30 million illegal aliens in our midst. Attrition thru enforcement works. Nor do we have to accept the current levels of legal immigration. We are not going to "convert" anyone, especially when one political party benefits from the status quo that will make them the permanent majority party. The people we should be "converting" are the American people to reduce legal immigration and enforce our laws.
My opinion is we can't put the immigrant genie back in the bottle. At least without a lot more political victories than just Donald Trump. If you disagree, explain how we can reduce, or better, stop immigration, and even send some back? I'm honestly not asking to bait you, but to hear your proposal, as I well know you work on this for a living.
I provided you above with my solution. I work voluntarily without pay on this issue, often using my own money. I have been doing it for almost 10 years now, but it is getting more difficult to do here in SC than in NoVA where I used to live. Immigration is the defining issue of our times.
Anyway, I have two teenage kids. They are both white, Christian (well, Catholic!) conservatives. I do not want to see them become a prosecuted minority in their future days.
What will be lost is the vision and values of our Founders. We are being overrun and colonized by the barbarians who took down other great empires. Western Civilization is at the precipice.
I know of no other case in history where the dominant racial or ethnic group voluntarily made itself a minority thru its policies. I fear the new majority will not be as charitable or committed to the Rule of Law as we are. Payback is a bitch.