Posted on 04/27/2017 12:39:16 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
United Airlines has a reached a settlement for an undisclosed sum with the passenger who was dragged from a Chicago flight earlier this month in an incident that sparked international outrage, an attorney for the passenger said on Thursday.
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Well, good on you!
Maybe not to that extent. But it may get people to refuse in order to be offered a better incentive. Or maybe Airlines will just offer better incentives immediately.
Of course, this could ALL be avoided if they would simply stop overbooking.
United offered a $200 voucher to have the bunny sent to a taxidermist
United offered a $200 voucher to have the bunny sent to a taxidermist
‘I’ve been saying since day one that I think he’s a scammer, but I’ve taken a lot of heat for it.’
Please. You’ve been politely asked to explain the scam. You are unable to do so, which feels to you like ‘heat.’
It’s not. It’s just your fundamental cluelessness burning you in any discussion you can’t win by dropping F-bombs.
The meta-lesson for me is never patronize a company run by a Mexican.
There, I said it.
And which claim of mine is that? You have to forgive me, because I don't recall making a single claim that I regarded as false. You'll have to point it out.
If you’re not paying attention to anything anyone says—or to their factual citations—then there’s no point in this discussion.
Again, i'm not sure what you mean here. People can spout factual citations all day long, but if they aren't relative to the central point at hand, why should anyone pay any attention to them?
You said the video had been disabled in my prior link. The text was still there, and the person who recorded the inception of the incident says you are DEAD WRONG.
People can say anything they like, but the video for which I provided a link shows Dr. Dao hitting his face on the armrest across the aisle from where he was seated. I can see this clearly with my own eyes.
So your point boils down to "Who are you going to believe, that Person who said so or your lying eyes?
They "eyes" have it.
People tell me i’m wrong all the time. They are very rarely correct.
Both the passengers and the videos depict Dao as firm but calm right up until the thugs started in on him. He didn’t throw tantrums or act immaturely. He simply stated his need and determination to remain on the flight.
If you’d actually read the article by the law prof, he said that the definition of words would NOT be a factor in the case—the exact opposite of what you falsely claimed.
Needing your seat for another employee ain’t on the list, and United has admitted this.
I think that is a point that would have to be adjudicated in court. You are relying on the word "overbooked" and we all assume it means that too many tickets have been sold or some such, but so far as the legal argument of the airline industry may be concerned, it could mean any condition in which they have too many passengers.
Then there is the matter of the agents acting in good faith. So far as they understood the term, they were "overbooked". Even if their understanding is wrong, Dr. Dao should have complied with their requests for him to leave. He should have litigated his case in court after the fact, not by refusing to comply with what the flight crew regarded as lawful orders.
The ‘police’ were not called. These were not police. They were unarmed security guards. They have no right to issue ‘orders’ to anyone. Other posts have indicated they didn’t even have a right to be on the plane at all.
The reports I have heard were that they were Airport Police. A quick search reveals dozens of articles claiming it was the Aviation Police of the Chicago Police Department. Here is just one.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170424/ohare/united-dragged-plane-david-dao-aviation-officers
They have no right to issue ‘orders’ to anyone.
I think that will depend upon whether or not they were really police officers. From what i've found on a quick search, it appears they were, and therefore were able to issue lawful orders with which Dr. Dao refused to comply.
Other posts have indicated they didn’t even have a right to be on the plane at all.
You can rely on "other posts" if you verify the material from authoritative sources. People on the internet can say all sorts of nonsense, and until you find out for sure, you can't rely on "other posts" to prove something.
If they were members of the Chicago Police department, or some other legal authority, then they had a right to be on that plane once called by the flight crew, and your "other posts" are just wrong.
United was not overbooked.
And you can prove this? Please provide your proof that they were not "Police." If you can prove this point, your larger point might be valid. So far as I have found on a quick search, they were police.
There is even a question on whether or not they could even legally be on the plane.
That doesn't even make sense on the face of it. You are trying to make the argument that a flight crew would call unauthorized people on their plane to drag off an unwanted guest.
Well why would they call unauthorized people instead of authorized people? That is just silly on the face of it.
Were the actual legal authorities too busy or unavailable? Seems like there would be a need to have some actual police at the Chicago Airport, but that's just me.
Part of the settlement was that he could not sue the police.
And who told you that? This article says they were police. Why else is the Mayor of Chicago bitching about the incident?
Mayor Rahm Emanuel said the suspension of the three officers were handled well by Aviation Commissioner Ginger Evans.
So now i've provided some evidence that they were police, so you go ahead and counter it with some evidence that they weren't.
Then we can figure out which one is true and which isn't.
It’s not. It’s just your fundamental cluelessness burning you in any discussion you can’t win by dropping F-bombs.
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LOL. Dude, I’ve already won the argument, but you’re obviously too obtuse to comprehend that.
I don't believe that was his intent, but that is certainly one of the consequences.
I thought it was wrong of United to kick him off the plane, I thought his argument that he was a Dr. and needed to see patients in the morning should have carried some weight, but since the Flight Crew decided that he was one of the passengers that should leave, he should have maintained some dignity and left the airplane.
Any rational person would have realized that the situation would turn out badly for them if they tried to resist or fight. The Flight Crew held all the cards, and a person was not going to win such a confrontation.
Maybe later in court, but at that moment the situation had "loser" written all over it.
To have a civilization, we all need to behave in a civilized manner. If after pleading your case you have not moved your persecutors, there is nothing for it but to recognize you are in a situation that you cannot win, and you might as well at least try to maintain some dignity.
Speaking of dense. How far left moonbat liberal do you have to be to scream F-bombs on FR? Conservatives don’t do that. The owner has asked us not to. So, since we respect the Boss [and since the average conservative doesn’t run around screaming the F-word anyway] we refrain.
You, being a looney leftist, have no respect for JR or his rules. So screaming F-bombs on FR is simply what comes naturally to you.
Thanks for outing yourself, DUer.
There are police. Just not members of the City of Chicago Police, though they are city employees that make $50-80k. It’s just that they do not have to meet the exact same standards as regular city police.
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/midwest/2017/04/18/448039.htm
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