[Ancesthntr]

“Plan B is to just boil the water. If I’ve made it 6 mo. to a year then I’ve obviously got fire.”

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You might wish to reconsider your Plan B, or to make it Plan C, D or E. Why? Because other people also have a Plan B - and for many that plan is to follow the smell of smoke to a source of supply for various and sundry needed goods.

Necessity strips away morality and civility - when people are willing to trample each other to get $50 off of a big-screen TV on Black Friday, what do you think that they’ll do when their kids are starving to death and there are no cops?

Invest a bit of money in a new Plan B - the peace of mind will be worth it, even if you never need to use it.

[circlecity]

"Why? Because other people also have a Plan B - and for many that plan is to follow the smell of smoke to a source of supply for various and sundry needed goods."

That's what all the guns and ammo are for. Also, I can also build a smokeless fire to boil water indoors, no problem.

[T-Bone Texan]

"...Necessity strips away morality and civility..."

Of all your wisdom excreted onto this thread, this is perhaps the most underrated, profound, and most ignored.

I look at our country and culture from a sociological perspective, and I posit that the neighbor that currently merely does not like you would, when the going gets tough, be perfectly willing to slit your child's throat if it meant one more day of life for them.

Civilization, morality, and civility is a thin veneer. Simply put, many folks nowadays are self-serving pricks. You see it on the roads. You see it in your interactions with strangers.

[SaveFerris]

[when people are willing to trample each other to get $50 off of a big-screen TV on Black Friday, what do you think that they’ll do when their kids are starving to death and there are no cops?]

Which is why I believe large cities will eventually become no-go-zones.