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To: palmer; Lakeshark; Fantasywriter
You have just illustrated how the Trump bot swarm has been operating around here for months.

Lakeshark starts it off with a few backhand slaps drawing principled people who choose not to be slandered in silence to respond in self-defense. This enables the posse, this time personified by fantasy writer, to join in and say in effect, "see what a Trump hater he is." Fantasy writers allegations on this thread are typical. In one breath she lies and says, "When you are parroting Hillary's lines to minimize Trump's victories and successes, you undercut your claim not to hate him. If it walks like a duck.."

For the record, I have never knowingly quoted Hillary's lines and never sought out purposely to minimize Trump's victories. That may, of course, have been the unavoidable result of telling the truth.

She compounds the liable by referring to some bizarre group about which I have absolutely no knowledge as though I am responsible for whatever some allegedly Soros funded group says:

Red alert: ShariaBlue caught posting fake rumors about Bannon/Kushner all over pro Trump channel. The goal is to alienate Trump's populist activist base.

It is bad enough to have to defend oneself against what one did not say as shown above but the next tactic is to require the victim to defend himself against precisely the opposite of what he did say:

Most recently in posts #75 fantasy writer accuses me of opposing Trump for his bombing in Syria when precisely the opposite is true. I supported Trump and even said in a recent post, "I applaud him."

Of course, the personal swipe is never completely neglected by these people as fantasy writer cannot refrain from accusing me by innuendo of being a racist.

Your expression "flame bait" is an appropriate way to describe what has been going on here for months. I would like nothing better than to take your admonition to "move on" but one cannot do so under this sort of really scurrilous attack and expect to be taken seriously.

Fortunately, events are opening the eyes of many fellow conservatives concerning Donald Trump when he departs from his promises or when he governs as something other than a conservative. Events are alerting them to the tactics we see here.


82 posted on 04/09/2017 6:45:26 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

‘For the record, I have never knowingly quoted Hillary’s lines and never sought out purposely to minimize Trump’s victories.’

That’s the scary part. Your alignment against Trump matches Hillary’s and her supporters’s so precisely, you echo their comments word for word without even knowing you’re doing it. I know of no other conservative who does this.

Try not to be so sensitive. When I first read that Nathan Bedford was a near-charter member of the KKK, I was shocked and amazed. You are the only poster I know who throws up a photo of a former KKK member with every post. Why you do it is your business. I only note the truth, and let it go at that.


85 posted on 04/09/2017 7:02:50 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: nathanbedford
Thanks for the lengthy reply. I took Trump at his word from the beginning that he would try to make conservative choices in office. He also has some conservative tendencies (America first, tax cuts) along with some liberal tendencies . It will turn out that some of his choices will not be conservative, but as long as the important ones are (e.g. Supreme picks) I will be satisfied that I got what I paid for with my donation.

As for the back and forth in these threads, there are valid concerns about divide and conquer tactics by enemies of conservatism. There are people who will accuse anyone (like yourself) of being part of an effort to divide Trump from his base. What those folks should consider is that the media has been trying to divide Trump from his base since he came down the escalator. It hasn't worked.

Some accusations regarding divide and conquer are themselves divide and conquer. But I am willing to listen to anyone and I have a poor memory and try not to carry arguments from thread to thread. However your screen name is notable mainly because of the avatar. So I see it and might have something of a knee jerk reaction but not too often. Also there's utterly no reason for me to pile on with "I had the same thought" as another poster.

The bottom line is while you have a conservative view on just about every issue, Trump is a patchwork conservative. Also Trump is a less perfect human being than average. Has made his share of mistakes and will continue to do so. But he won based mainly on his ability to win, a tautology but a strong tautology. He's what we got for 8 years and I for one will enjoy the ride.

128 posted on 04/09/2017 7:08:31 PM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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