Posted on 04/08/2017 7:09:13 AM PDT by b4its2late
I agree. Savage is always yelling (literally) about something. Yes he’s right a lot but so are many others. He’s also been wrong. He was very unreliable during the campaign if he didn’t like something. It all bears watching. Trump has made it very clear he is not discussing military matters. At what point do we get to pick and choose who to believe?
I don’t like the Syrian involvement, either.
I can see the political leverage, though.
1. Stop using gas or else: Russia, this means you
2. Shut down the Russia talk in the press
3. Do it while Xi is sitting across the dinner table to send a message
4. Put the world on notice that America is no longer led by the Ditherer in Chief (DIC)
5. Leadership sometimes means, “Do something, Lieutenant, even if it’s wrong.”
6. Exclamation point on unmasking the DIC lies about chemical weapons removed thru diplomacy
The fact that Savage turned on the president is old news. If Weiner-man can be depended on for one immutable character trait it is that he will turn on you eventually.
This is the airbase that we hit. >>>. can you source the photo. i have an al jezeera video of the smiling hurt head guy during the fake white helmut rescue.
When I Google Assad denies the use of chemical weapons I get 3,270,000 results. Why am I not surprised our media has chosen not to engage in a national debate on the attack?
“...disappointing that self-identified conservatives would approve ...”
That happened on the health care debate as well. This neighborhood is changing.
I’m not opposed to America killing people and breaking things at times. I just wish we would be more honest about things and have pre-stated goals.
The funny thing to me is that all the people who said Trump would be a dangerous, rash decision type of president are now praising him more than his core followers. For making a violent and rash decision.
I’m a patriot and vet and not at all triggered by seeing our great Navy throwing tomahawks at some natives.
But let’s not kid ourselves. This is not some act of strength. A surprise attack everyone knows about and stands clear of doesn’t take big balls. This was a photo op, not a daring military op.
The braver and more legit way would have been to assert himself in Congress and pressure them for immediate authority to be the CW World Policeman - or whatever.
Then draw your line and pre-establish your mode of proving violations. Be certain that when proof is clear punishment is severe.
Not only is going to Congress first the right thing to do morally and Constitutionally, it would have been good for Trump politically. After his OCare-lite fiasco, he could use a victorious campaign to conquer the Hill in his own backyard. While at the same time looking tough in the world in a reasoned fashion.
If the line is never crossed, then humanity wins without the big expensive and militarily silly show of force. If the line IS crossed then you have your chance to be strong and resolute.
Personally, I would not see the logic in being the world’s CW policeman. Are these dead people worse off that those beaten and hacked to death in brutal African nations? Are they more dead than the many victims of evil cartels operating on and below our border?
How about the 1000 other civilian victims killed in Syria with nice soft conventional weapons for every one CW victim? Don’t they deserve a policeman too?
Or pick from several American cities that apparently have no policemen. There has been several blue moons since that last CW attack. While every new moon brings as many brutal deaths in Chicago.
Yes, I realize all these situations are not exactly comparable. The point is that we put such a high level of concern on what is a relatively small problem in terms of the number of people affected. Short of a sensibilities offense, there is no American interest involved. But those are everywhere in various forms. So if we are going to have a foreign policy based simply on feelings and triggers, then we are going to be busy.
I’m still not opposed to killing more people to address the problem of people being killed. Whether because they were killed in a manner that offends us somehow or whether the victims were our buddies or whatever. I just want us to do it the morally and constitutionally correct way.
Remember the bombing in Iraq during the first war when Peter Arnett swore by footage of the rubble with Iraqis running around in jackets that read: “Baby Milk Factory”? In English? Like the guy in the vid wearing a “Press” vest? Also in English.
>If it was a false flag operation why isn’t Russia and Assad vehemently denying they were involved?
Because claiming anything as a false flag instantly puts you conspiracy theory land and dismissed.
You nailed it, FreeAtlanta. See my post 142 below. Great minds.
Well, God saved us from HRC, using his chosen “delivery module” : )>>> i agree and have to keep reminding myself of this. my tagline is make america great again in Cyrillic. it doesn’t render well.
Assad's denial only lasted as long as the intelligence evidence came out that he was involved.
Syria or Russia are the only two that ability to drop gas from a plane.
It stretched all credulity that rogue agents of US deep state could pull that off.
“...OMG we are dead!...”
Quick the fainting couch!! (hehehehe)
Justice was done and this will not escalate with any real significance is my prediction.
Do you believe our #FakeNews media, all of whom are praising DJTs attack, would honestly give the Assad's denial ink? And why in the world would anyone believe intelligence evidence given all that we've learned about them since 11/8/16?
It's insane to think rogue members of our military obtained plane and chemical weapons and gassed civilians. ISIS nor rebel groups have access to aircraft capable of doing that.
The conspiracy you're spouting is as kooky at the 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. It's embarrassing.
If there are no good guys - we should not be there. Get out of their way and let them kill each other..
I don’t know what happened there - but I don’t buy the narrative being pushed. The film I saw was not people contaminated by nerve gas - the nurses would be getting sick.
>>he conspiracy you’re spouting is as kooky at the 9/11 conspiracy nonsense. It’s embarrassing.
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Ah yes, conspiracy, spouting, kooky, nonsense, embarrassing...
These heretofore “CIA-effectively”-used buzzwords, always guaranteed to work....until now. Now that we’ve seen Wikileaks (100% accuracy rating) revelations, and seen what the Deep State does to all who dare to challenge it, aka Trump, we shall henceforth call it:
Conspiracy FACT, IDENTIFICATION, & ANALYSIS.
Garbage.
I was confused by videos of responders hosing down victims, and the victims apparently acting as though they had a burning sensation . But seemed to be lucid.
I had to get a refresher on what Sarin is.
It’s an organophosphate nerve agent.
Ever bug spray a critter and see it flop around on its back, convulsing, loss of all muscular control?
That’s exactly what nerve gas does to humans.
No safely washing it off.
Savage may be correct, Phosgene. Nasty stuff, a burn , blister agent but not in the Sarin class.
Those containers sure look intact, without signs of release, to me.
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Also, the smoke drifting in front of the hangar does not drift over the barrels. Also, who stores soft skin munitions out on the ground, right in front of a working hangar?
Remember the pack of condoms left on the fender of the burned out Libyan tank, which proved the loyalists were raping women?
This whole thing whiffs of theater.
Enjoy your new Syrian neighbor in Chicago.
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