TV interviews mean nothing, they can claim
anything they want, innocence, no knowledge of,...never seen, not aware of,etc etc....
Testify before Congress, under oath, is where things get sticky. It is where the deals are made....where we lose. Its done behind closed doors,we only get to see and
hear the the selected “highlights” deemed
suitable. Justice no longer exist. The bribes,corruption,crimes...are all driven buy $$$$$$....UNTIL the guilty are sentenced...it will never change.
Recall the saga of "Scooter" Libby (from former VP Cheney's staff) during the unmasking of Valerie Plame?
"Scooter" got serious jail time. And Shrub did not pardon him.