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To: Strac6

So it’s just coincidence that every time a trial date gets close, they dribble out a little more ‘exculpatory evidence’?

And if there’s that much ‘exculpatory evidence’ to dribble out, how good a case do they really have?


32 posted on 04/03/2017 12:30:07 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent

You make claims that are simply not true.

Thank about it this way, if these click bait anti-gov nut sites are trying so hard to have the evidence never presented, then how bad must it be.

These sites are jailhouse lawyers stating conclusions that are in search of real legal evidence... that does not exist.

Bottom line, despite all the claims otherwise, a bunch of motorcycle punks murdered some other people.... and McCellnon County will have it TON of flesh.


33 posted on 04/03/2017 1:30:49 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: chaosagent

The prosecution could easily enough bring a solid case against some limited number of defendants, minus the "conspiracy", element, perhaps.

For that element they need people to talk, and hopefully incriminate themselves. Or else ---snitches--- who in fear of their own lives (20 to life in prison) could be pressured into saying just about ANy_THing -- and that's a problem.

Coerced testimony is inherently tainted. Crush one testicle -- and a fella' will say ANY_Thing to try to keep the other one from being crushed.

Going by the various videotape segments that have thus far made their way into public view, some limited number of defendants do appear quite possibly guilty of having committed unlawful assault, perhaps even murder ---in a few instances.
The rest of the defendants --- not so much. Not according to matching the charges filed and sworn to.

Which makes Renya and Co. into being a bunch of g-d'd LIARS when they filed papers claiming they did have enough ---when they first brought the collectively vague allegations before a Court. That part, regardless of eventual outcomes, is irrefutable.

It serves no one well to commit sins in order to rectify/deal with sins committed by others.

That Renya & Co. (and the Feds, in the background, and in lead-up to the events that happened in Waco) possibly have some justification for charges filed against some limited number of defendants, does mean they have all justification in regards to each and every defendant. This is the big problem, and is where miscarriage of justice has more than just an off-chance of occurring.

Listen to the dweeb you've been talking to. Examine his comments here, and on other threads, carefully. What is he pressing for? He's trying to make it be that if defendants do not abandon 5th Amendment constitutional rights, they are in danger of being convicted of criminal conspiracy for which they personally did not "conspire" to be part of.

If that is not the case ---- then what's up with his predicting a large number of defendants will end up being charged with (plead guilty to?) offenses bringing less than one year's incarceration? That would mean they either; did not commit the multiple felonies which they were all equally charged with, or else it is the DA's office who is "working at getting murderers set free" ---so the DA can more easily convict a limited number of the 154 who were (absolutely) one and all, identically indicted.

They pound the table saying they have enough to be able to have reason to expect to be able to convict each defendant --- but they do not, not if neutral principles of law were to be neutrally applied ---not relying upon judge's, and/or juries own personal prejudices to be THE deciding factors.

It is an impossibility Renya had enough to win conviction for all when he first took it to a grand jury-- unless local-to-Waco LE (and possibly Renya also) had been provided information he's not sharing, and has reason to take continuing pains to remain hidden (in order to protect Federal agencies and agents from being subject to laws regarding pre-trial discovery).

That's what's really going on here, that, and as another posted up-thread remarked; "he [the DA] bit off more than he can chew".

41 posted on 04/03/2017 5:43:04 PM PDT by BlueDragon (they were not listening then, they're not listening still...)
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